fantom x live setting play question

Hi noamdt.

Welcome to the Roland Clan.

Unfortunately, the dropout in sound when switching Live Play settings is unavoidable. There are a few reasons for this.

1. - Changing Live Play patches changes the MFX settings for all 3 MFX processors and effects settings for the Reverb and Chorus effect processors. This sound routing change causes a sound interruption.
   - Changing Live Play patches changes the Performance (which thus changes all 16 Parts and their respective Patches). This large number of Patch changes (one for each Part) will often cause the release portion of a previously playing Patch to be cut off.

You might be able to reduce the length of dropout by turning off all the MFX and the Chorus and Reverb processors. Of course, this will seriously change the sound of most Patches and is probably not a desirable solution. But you can try it and see if it's acceptable for your purposes.

Regards,

Nathan Sheldon
http://www.nathansheldon.com/

thanks for the reply
I find it hard to believe that such a great peice of engineering has that kind of basic problems...
is there no way to avoid this even by holding the sustain pedal?

I AGREE - THAT JUST SUCKS!

its a nightmare when im playing LIVE and u wanna change sounds!

even my old Korg SG PRO X could do it!
ahhh. those were the days

saying that i dont even think my Motif ES can do it either!
Grrrrr



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noamdt, there is a great way to switch from one sound to another and have absolutely no delay. This Magic Trick works great and just about everyone that has invested the time to set it up has loved it.

This allows you to perfectly switch between sounds with absolutely no delay.

You will need to invest some of your time in setting it up. Follow the instructions described by lazeeboy carefully and you will never have another problem switching between sounds. Check it out at: http://forums.rolandclan.info/index.php?action=show_thread&thread=7863&fid=1&page=1

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I tell you that should be a sticky...

man that's long...
thanks, I'll give it a try.
I was also hoping when changing patches that the OLD ONE WOULD STILL PLAY.but first thing's first...

In the Fantom x there is a way to change between patches or performances with no silence in between.Put the Patch Remain "on" on the System Mode,then do the settings in Favorites Mode as you would do in the Live Setting Play.You can even jump between banks.The problems are that the sounds change but the highlight stays on the first number you play,and you just have eight options.Does anyone knows something else about this?Why doesn't that apply to the Live Setting Page?

Hi Duka,

My very recent summary, here.
The full thread, here.

Feel free to ask specific questions once you know what you're wanting to achieve.

Cheers
Andy

Hi Andy,i'm glad you took your time to answer me.I saw your friend's video on youtube and i can see it works fine,but i work with splits,sometimes 3 to 4 sounds at a time in each split.In a song i may be using 1 to 10, sometimes more splits.Not necessarily different splits,but i may have to go to another one and then come back to the first one,or else.So to play live,i use a set of performances(splits),that i'll be switching up during the song,using a pedal,because sometimes the changes are so fast that i don't have time to take my hands off,go to the pads and come back.That's why i have to use the Live Setting Play page,or the Favorites.That system doesn't work for me.My question is why can the sound be changed with no pause in the Favorites mode and not in the Live Setting page?

There is a fraction of a second's pause on my Fantom when I change sounds in the Favourites. I believe it is because the MFX settings all have to be changed.

If you need that many sound changes in your songs it sounds like you really should spend some time looking into the Live Sound Switching Tutorial thread, as it solves your problem. I think it is Howards on here that uses that method with a Behringer FCB1010 pedal to switch through sounds live. The footpedal generates a note outside of the playable range of the keyboard, and the Fantom has an RPS sequence attached to that note, so the footpedal triggers the RPS sound changes.

You could also use "spare" notes to do this, say if you had an organ that ends on an E, and strings that start on the G above, you could attach an RPS sequence to the F key inbetween. Your playing has to be pretty neat for this not to lead to madness, though.

Also consider if there are better ways you can either program the Patches you use, or the layout of your splits and layers. You can think of the Fantom keyboard as both a traditional keyboard (chromatic from bass left to treble right), but also as 88 independant switches. Without knowing what you are trying to achieve it's hard to offer any concrete help, but I hope this helps in some way.

Andy

In a Performance window press F5(Favorites),then F3 and make any set you want.I work with splits,like 2 performances all with the same sound on the left hand(a pad,by ex),and on the right hand the first one has a piano and on the second one a saxophone.I change them using a pedal.You have to go to <System> and assign the control pedal to Favorite Up.Patch Remain must be on.I change them and the saxophone comes in without no pause on the pad.The Performance window has to be the one you're going to assign.Duka