Sample Libraries by Cesarsound

PS: I have just updated the above list, including the Mellotron library.

These samples and patches are just incredibly good and sound absolutely professional!!! Thanks so much for sharing them with us!!!

bastimuc wrote:

These samples and patches are just incredibly good and sound absolutely professional!!! Thanks so much for sharing them with us!!!

Thanks for your comments!

Cesarsound.

Thank you very much for sharing. These sounds are just great.

Cheers

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Cesarsound,

I am a newbie with regards to the Fantom X ( Purchased a few weeks ago) and I wondered if you could answer a couple of questions for me. 1. ) Once I download the patches and copy to my compact flash card, how do I load them into the Fantom? 2.) Will need I need more than the standard 34mb of ram to load any one patch at a time? I have not yet upgraded the ram, but would love to try out the mellotrons and Rhodes samples.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Bill

I think with the amount of RAM that you have maybe you can load the CP70 pinaos, The Rhodes MKI, and the Mellotron. Of course not all of them together, but separately. You copy the Roland folder to the CF card. There would be two sub folders there. They are SMPL and SND. The samples files are in the SMPL folder. You put the card in and power up the keyboard. Depending on the settings in the start up menu, the keyboard may, or may not, load the samples at start up. If it does, then you can see the patches. Otherwise, you can load the samples manually. There is a key to the top and left of the orange pads. The key has the lable of "Load/Save". You can press that button and load the samples that way. Good luck.


ILLO

Illo,

Thank you so much for your clear response to my post. I am excited to try these patches out. I plan to purchase a 512mb ram stick soon, as I would like to use samples for sounds not found in the Fantom.

Thanks,

Bill

Hi Illo and Bill,
Thanks for your comments and for helping each other.

Cesarsound.

Cesarsound,

First, I want to thank you for these fantastic samples. With Illo's help and some button pushing, I was able to load the the Mellotron samples into my Fantom X7. However, I am wondering if what I did was correct. When I go to the the patch category menu and look under Sample/Card, I see a number of flute, string, choir and brass samples listed with what looks like the either numbers or root key's listed in the patch description. Should all of these be separate sounds with different pitch classes, or should these be combined to make one multisample? I am sorry if this should be obvious, but I have never used samples on the Fantom before, and I am not sure if these are actually indvidual samples that should be combined to make one patch?


UPDATE:

I must be doing something wrong here. I tried putting the Rhodes MK I in my Fantom X7. When I go to the Patch menu under card. I see a list of 48 or so samples. These do not appear to be 16 patches as described in the read this txt file. some most of these only play one pitch and have strange effects applied. Can someone please help.




Also, is it possible to put an number of different samples (mellotron, rhodes, cp 70) in one "ROLAND" folder on one CF card?

Bill

I'm a newbie too. So take my instructions with a grain of salt here. I hope I'm right though. Firstly, I don't think you need to mess around with the samples. I am sure ready to use patches are already made up for you from those samples. You are looking in the wrong area. Press the button labled "Patch/Rhythm". Then you have a couple of ways to scroll through the patches. If you press the F4 key, you get to see the patches grouped by categories, such as "Piano", etc. If you press F5, then you get to see the patches according to where they are located. These are "User", presets A through I, then GM, then "Card".

Of course the factory patches are in the presets A through I and then the GM. When Fantoms are shipped from the factory, the "USER" and the "CARD" locations are filled with the copies of the same patches that are loaed in presets a through I. But as you go along, you gradually replace the "User" and "Card" locations with you own patches.

So you can press the F5 key and then either F1 or F2 to scroll up and down to get to the "User" and "Card" locations for the custom patches. But then it would be hard to distinguish which ones are the custom ones and which ones are copies of the factory patches. One way to tell is from their names. If you want to dig into it and make sure, then press the "Patch Edit" button twice to get you to the editing mode. Then scroll down on the left side to get to the "wave" section. Once there, you will see the each patch is made up from four tones. The tones are named A, B, C, and D. The tones are actually the samples. In the "Wave" screen you will see which wave bank holds the sample. If you see something like "A" bank, then it is made from a factory sample. If you see "User", or "Card", then one of the imported samples is used. A Patch can be made up from all imported samples, or all factory samples, or a combination of both.

So that is my way of knowing if a patch is made form factory samples or from imported samples.

While you are investingating the waves screen, you can hit the F8 button. Then you will see numbers 1, 2, 3, and four on the left side at the bottom. They are highlighted in "yellow" color. By pressing the F buttons below them you can turn each tone (sample) off and on to hear what they sound like. There are also another set of numbers 1 to 4 at the bottom on the righ side. One of them is highlightd in pink. When you press the correspond F button under those pink buttuns, you will see the properties of each tone. As I mentioned before, each patch is made of of four tones. If the samples are stereo samples, then each tone can have two samples for a total of eight samples per patch. If you hold the first pink button, then you can press the other three buttons and that way you can see the properties of all four patches all at the same time. Otherwise you will see one column at a time.

Hope this helps.

Illo,

Thank you so very much. I knew that I had to be doing something wrong. I had been going to "Patch Categories" and then "user samples". I was not looking under the F5 "patch" grouping. Once I did that, the 16 fantastic Cesarsound Rhodes MK 1 patches were all there. I now have to try this again with the mellotron samples I first loaded. I was playing the raw sample data and not patches. Which brings me to another question. Is there a way to put more than one sample on the same CF card at one time and then be able to access either the mellotron or Rhodes at the same time? I have tried dragging both "Roland" folders to the card by renaming the second "Roland" folder, and I have tired dragging the sample data for each card to one folder, but none of this seems to help. Any ideas?

Thanks again for taking the time to help me out. I appreciate all your efforts.

Bill

Bill,

I'm not sure if it is possible to put all the samples separately on one card and load them on demand. I think eventually it would be possilbe to combine all the smaller sets into one big set. But the process is way too complicated to do manually. There is also a software that can do it. It is called Fantom YASE. I looked into it but for a casual used like me it's too expensive.

I was able to manually combine the content of one small set into the content of a much bigger set manually once. I'm not sure if I would try it again. Here is a summary of how I did it.

1. First load the small set. Investigate each patch. Write down exactly for each patch which samples are used for each of the four tones, and whether the samples are from preset samples, use samples, or from card samples.

2. Use Fantom Librarian software. Read the patches from the keyboard into Librarian and then save it. Note that, as far as I know, Fantom Libraian can only read the content of "User" patches. It can not read the content of "Card" patches. So if the patches that you are interested in are in the "Card" category, you would have to copy them into the "User" category first.

3. Load the Bigger set into FX. Now start Fantom Libraian again. Open the patches from the previous set and manually copy them into "User" locations in the bigger set one by one. Hopefully you have some open spots for them.

4. Then use the USB connection and load the samples that you need for the recently copied patches on to the card. Import the multi smaples one set at a time and note the names and locations of each multi sample and each regular sample.

5. Once the samples are all imported, you open each new patch and start editing them. You have to specify the location of all the samlles for each patch so that the patch would know where to get its samples.

6. As mentioned before, you can copy smaples from Librarian into user locations first. Once they are copied, if you need to put the patches on "card", then you can copy them from "User" to "card".

Lastly I recommend you buy the tutorial DVd from Sudosonic on eBay. It's well worth the investment. Here's the link. Good luck.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Roland-Fantom-X-Tutorials-Double-DVD-set-4hrs-/250866183043?pt=Keyboards_MIDI&hash=item3a68ca2b83


ILLO


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Illo,

Thank you for your wonderfully informative response. I too have looked into the YASE program, but for my purposes it is too expensive. Your summary sounds quite involved, and I guess at this point I am not ready to put that much work into combining the mellotron and rhodes onto one card. I think I must be able to copy the samples from the card to the user sample memory. Am I correct in this? Anyway, thanks for all your effort to help out a new user. You seem to have a good understanding of the instrument's features. I will look into the Sudosonic DVD set as you have suggested.


Thanks again for all your help,

Bill

Bill,

Yes you can put the small amount of samples in the "User" memory. For that you would have to use the USB connection. You would have a choice of selecting where the samples go, to the card, or to the user memory. However, if the card is there then the smaples would go to the card, regardless of what destination you choose. I had that issue and somebody pointed out that if you want the smaples to go user memory you would have to remove the card.

Good luck.


Illo