New Ac. Grand Piano for Fantom G!

Hi BoricuaRoland!!

Is it possible to do the multisamples for fantom-x compatibility, or at least, tell us what samples each layer are made and what notes you sampled. Maybe one of us fantom-x users, will try to reproduce for our boards.

Thanks

I would like to thank you BoricuaRoland for a fantastic result on this sampled "Real Grand" for the Fantom G.

- Theme from Shindler's List (Played by Rafael Pólit on BoricuaRoland's "The Real Grand" sampled piano)

I have used several sampled pianos over the years, including a great Bosendorfer for Tascam's GigaStudio. While those are excellent for recordings, we often find ourselves in need of a VERY good piano to play live (not at a studio). To carry a laptop, or even worse, a full desktop, is overkill!

For that purpose we bought a Kurzweil SP2X with 88 keys, fully weighted, which is a bit to heavy for casual plays (or when we need to get to a high choir of a very old church).

Now, with your "Real Piano" and our Fantom G6 (much more portable although regretfully not fully weighted) we believe we have found our product!

Truly, thanks a lot... the sound is fantastic. I tweaked a bit some of the equalizer to better match my speakers. I love the fact that the piano is very-slightly out of tune, and that the chords are not "mathematically" in sync on some notes, which brings some realistic depth to the samples.

I have not yet made the comparison with my other pianos, which I may upload sometime at a later day, but I wanted to share with everyone a recording I made playing the G6 (for it to be a faithful image of what could be achieved only with the G6, no other hardware taken to the live performance, not even a weighted controller).

I really think the piano sounds fantastic, with rich depth and expressiveness:
- Theme from Shindler's List (Played by Rafael Pólit on BoricuaRoland's "The Real Grand" sampled piano)

Thanks again, this is a great community with fantastic knowledge and resources. I'm grateful to have found you.

Rafa.

Sounds great except for a couple of clunky low notes that accentuate a high ringing sound...

Is that easily fixable?

I agree. I also find that the high velocity samples are a bit metallic on the higher notes, at least on my current configuration.

Not sure if I introduced both of these minor downsides with the change in EQ and the ENHANCER I applied to the first MFX to expand a bit the sound to prevent (what I thought was) a bit of compression in the middle register.

Any insight from the experts here would be highly appreciated. I take it your MadaHorn's NY piano is the de-facto comparison patch so perhaps you are the one to ask about it?

Rafa.

Well...EQ can have a lot to do with it. Sometimes even just a one or two notch adjustment can make quite a difference. The enhancer should be used sparingly for piano I think.

I did not download any of these samples yet myself.

Yes! I agree... but I think the Enhancer is the culprit of most of the distortions, including the ringing low notes. I hooked some better monitors (instead of the speakers) and re-made the EQ.

I added a little Church Reverb as well.

Here's the new link (I'm keeping the old one from the post above for comparison purposes):

- Theme from Shindler's List (Played by Rafael Pólit on BoricuaRoland's "The Real Grand" sampled piano)

Most of the metallic sound is gone as well as the resounding bases. Alas, some of the brilliance got lost as well, the new sound is a bit more compressed... I guess there are compromises to be made to achieve the propper brilliance/metallic balance.

What do you think?

Rafa.

Are you going to upload this remade piano RafaPolit. Sounds like you've made it even better.

Simondragon,

Thanks... I think there is no need for me to upload anything, as this is BoricuaRoland's *almost* unmodified piano.

I can, of course, share what are the minor modifications I made, some minor tweaks to the EQ and to the Reverb, here are the settings (click for larger image):


Finally, (and perhaps this is something worth taking up with BoricuaRoland directly) I have replaced the sample [F#3 3] with the sample [A3 3] for the F#3~Ab3 3th voice, cause the original F#3 3 sample has a thump/scratch after about 0.3 seconds into the sound which is distracting. It only triggers on mid to strong velocities, but on some classical passages I play, it is, as mentioned, a bit distracting.

You can test this by pressing F#3, G3 or Ab3 at at medium-to-strong velocity.

Other than that, what you hear is what BoricuaRoland has so generously provided, no changes made!

Hope this helps,
Rafa.

Thanks for that have made another patch with the adjustments. Thanks for the info

Hey guys, you can hear this great Real Grand being used in my latest Fantom-G track.
Look at this thread.

First I have to say congratiolations with your sampling boricuaRoland. But On my G8 the piano sounds really agressive and I even don't have to push hard on my keyboard

greetz Joss

Joss,

Have you tried changing the Weight Response curve? Perhaps for your keboard/type of playing a HEAVY setting for the curve may be more suitable for this piano?

Rafa.

Hello everyone. Im glad that you liked the Ac. Grand. Im am a little bit busy working with a lot of things but soon im going to upload new multisamples. Thanx 4 all the messages. God Bless...

amazing job!!!!

Thanks very much, and now I´m waiting for your B3 project. :-p

Just kidding and hoping! LOL

Amazing piano! Really! And Rafa, very good examples with this piano. Nice to hear this inspiring patch with an inspiring song.

Boricua me gusto. pero quiero que sepas que el mib,mi,fa tienen algo de problema comnicate danielpiza@yahoo.com buenisimo, buen trabajo