dirty south drum rolls

Hi Tech

Your going to have to tell us how you do that...

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There's many ways to do a pitch change.

One easy way would be to put the thing through a pitch effect, assign a knob to the pitch parameter and twiddle the knob as you're recording.

Another way would be to edit the kit so that you can change the pitch, and then create your own hits with different pitches.

Another way would be to just use the snares kit on a different channel, and change the pitch in the perf edit page (as oyu're recording).

Another way is to try resampling the hit and then playing across the keyboard.

Yet another would be to assign pitch changes to patterns and use the pads to trigger them. All these do the same thing, but might have different effect.

For rolls and stuff, i'd recommend step recording and microediting. Step recording is such an awesome tool, that you have to use it to appreciate it. Also, see that the velocities are perfect. I.e. dont make it uneven/humanish. You're not going for an acoustic feel. you want that electronic hip hop drums sound, right?


Another tip on quantize : When you're on the quantize menu, dont execute it. try the settings and hit play while the menu is stilll open. This'll play the track with the quantize settings but will not apply it. Easy way to preview your quantize before finializing it.

BTW, as someone pointed out, you can use pads on whatever you want. Just go that little block that says pad. Go to another track, and click on that. That'll be the track your pads are active on.

HTH.



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enzo , sorry ididnt get back faster. what you do is make a multisample and assign it to a part on the keys then go to the pads and and change the pads controller from 10 to what ever the part on the keys the multisample is on. do your roll and it will be on what ever track you assign it to. then go to micro edit and change veloc on every other . also experiment with diff roll like 24, 32 rolls. this will give you faster roll s or slower roll. also when i said change velo , try diff things like vol going down then back up, and up then back down. as for pitch , since now a multi sample you can move notes up and down in the micro edit. try pitching by the beat like 4 notes at a time . the roll probaly will be 3 or 4 beats so pitch the the first 4 notes the same up or down then the next4 up or down but diff from the first four but not far from the first 4 notes and so on and so on , and that it. i hoped this helped someone . im no pro at all, if someone can improve on what i said please do so , i am always willing to learn. peace.....

You probably figured it out by now but the setting is under "Pad setting" just look for "part number" I believe its at the top of the screen. Can play any Part (1 - 16) from the pads, and of course you can record on any track to play any channel you want.

Also check out the note assignments for the pads also, and maybe the Multi-Velo option for 16 diff velocity levels for the same note on all pads.

why dont u just take the drum sample an put it on a part, and then use the rhythm function and then change the arp function to PHRASE, that will cause your rythm to play out the hits like a keyboard, giving u the pitch change, then just program your roll into the rhythm maker?

thats what i do, or i just play them on the keys

load a drum sample on a track and then do the break down,
like for instance

patch PR E-125 in the percussion bank on the fantom x, its a timpani +low, just load this as an example for a dirty south roll,
withthe

keyboard velocity set at like 9 from middle c down to b,a,g, hitting them each 3 times fast, will give u that roll feeling or a tom like and 808 tom,

hopethis makes sense


playing them is fun, and so is building it in the rythm maker

Hey Hi Tech

How do you make the pads multi velocity??? I never knew about that... Im use to it with the mpc, damn... The fantom has to be the best piece of equiptment I have ever bought...

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M-Powered 7 w/ Project Mix I/O, Fantom X7, Korg MS200BR, EMU Xboard49 w/ Proteus X and Mo' Phatt, Shure KSM44 and SM58, Dell Inspirion 6000 w/ 1.6GHZ, 2GB ram....

Pad multi velocity-

Go to Pad setting...

Hit Quick Set up...

Scroll to Multiple velocity..

select Note...

I figured that out recently as well...

MPC users commonly refer to this as the FAMOUS "16 Levels" function...

I discovered it while playing around with some samples....

It basically takes the SAME note and places it on ALL the pads at 16 evenly spaced velocities...REAL COOL!

A lot of people are SLEEPIN on the fantom...let's WAKE EM UP!!!!!!


PEACE
Sean G

yep hell yeah...

problem is people don't have patience in learning... they return a machine in less then a month... Cuz its not what they learned on, and with today's short attention spans, I am not suprised..

Can't wait to get my new soundcard and my akai mpd 24...

I'll be good for a long while after that...

I copped that Korg padKONTROL about 2 months ago...I won't be buying anything 4 a while....

I'm happy as a "hooker" with a bag of........


well....you know......


PEACE

Thanks fellas, im going to have to remember this one for the future... Even though I really didnt use this feature when I had a MPC, its still good to know that I can do it...

Real Hip Hop isn't Dead!!!!!
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=251997
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Gear List...
M-Powered 7 w/ Project Mix I/O, Fantom X7, Korg MS200BR, EMU Xboard49 w/ Proteus X and Mo' Phatt, Shure KSM44 and SM58, Dell Inspirion 6000 w/ 1.6GHZ, 2GB ram....

its real good for coming up with believable hats... imo, in the very least gives way more control..

just another tool

Yea alot of what the mpc can do the fantom can do as well just a diff way of doing it - sometimes in a totally different way, but they have alot of similar features - just diff terminology. Prolly the same for triton and motif also.

Some features that i wish Roland would have implemented (from other brands) was the song feature (structure entire song without the need to manually copy parts to patterns(fantom), or even the loop track features...Like on the triton, you can loop indiv tracks seperate from each other... sick... you can build up songs real fast.

Oh well, I'm used to the fantom's workflow now so i aint complainin...

I agree Hi Tech

I've been debating for the longest on if I should get an mpc 2500 for the mobility and the ten outs and how easy it is to program a song... But for $2000, I think the fantom can hold me down for now, I could use that money towards more sounds to freak...

Real Hip Hop isn't Dead!!!!!
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