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How to make this popular bright piano (mp3 inside)?

Re: How to make this popular bright piano (mp3 inside)?

23 Oct 2006, 20:18
Wait, are we demonstrating that it can be done, or doing it for you?

Re: How to make this popular bright piano (mp3 inside)?

23 Oct 2006, 22:21
Hi,

I am simply asking how a certain sound could be programmed on the Fantom X.. I don't see what's wrong with that!

Back on topic:

Peterned wrote:
my 2 cents; fantom x "bright piano"

This is actually not the JD, but a patch with a-bank AC.Pno f A left and right, 4 stereo tones of which 2 are pitched up an octave, and bandpass filters varying between 90 and 110. All velocity sensitivity was killed, and there's a wee bit of resonance as well as keyboard tracking on the cutoff.

There's still a noticable difference with the original, but it's a good first attempt ;) It's still too "warm", and the original has a louder "click" in the attack sound.
Peterned, could you please tell if all 4 tones need a bandpass filter and how to set it for each tone?

If anybody else can help with this, PLEASE post a reply!

PS: The original audio demo I posted. This is from a track called "Run" by Milk Inc.

Thanks for all helpful replies!!

Re: How to make this popular bright piano (mp3 inside)?

24 Oct 2006, 09:36
4 tones may be wasted polyfony, but the patch will require at least 2 tones for the 1 octave difference. All tones need band pass filters, (around 90 - 110) since there are no lower frequencies audible in the sample either (apart from the separate bass sound). The choice of waves (7 and 8) is simply because they already sound similar. That's basically it, the rest is icing on the cake.

The higher tones in the original sample still seem to have more resonance ... something bell-like, but simply boosting resonace in the patch doesn't really get it done. Adding a sine may work, though as 8poundstar mentioned; the original is obviously mastered etc, so a single Fantom won't get it exactly the same.

I wouldn't consider a single sound be an argument for buying or not buying a synthesizer though. The fantom is obviously capable of this sound, using internal samples for that matter :) it IS a synthesizer afterall. I'd be surprised if it couldn't do this.

Re: How to make this popular bright piano (mp3 inside)?

25 Oct 2006, 10:48
Hi,

If a tone has stereo waveforms, like AC.Pno f A left and right, is it also possible to just select the left waveform and use it as center mono or will it sound to the left only then?

I am asking cause the original audio demo sounds more centered, perhaps cause they only used a mono sound?

Re: How to make this popular bright piano (mp3 inside)?

25 Oct 2006, 14:36
Yes it will be Center mono...

If you want it to be panned, well you can pan it to left or right...

Re: How to make this popular bright piano (mp3 inside)?

26 Oct 2006, 14:47
I'm gonna stop poking with this sound now :P But one last update before I do;

Fantom X "bright piano" 2

Hearing this, the first one I posted immediately sounds utterly crappy :P It turns out that the f and ff jazz pianos from wave group B resemble the original waaay better. This mp3 is made out of 2 tones with stereo waves B 75 & 76. The pairs 35 & 36 as well as 65 & 66 also sound similar.

I've made a short svq as well for those who'd like to poke around with the patch: here.
It's pretty straight forward; I've just applied the bpf filter and mimicked some tva/f settings from other pianos since I figured that would make sense. Not really used to tuning accoustic sounds ;)

Re: How to make this popular bright piano (mp3 inside)?

27 Oct 2006, 01:33
peterned you are a guru.

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