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How to make this popular bright piano (mp3 inside)?

Re: How to make this popular bright piano (mp3 inside)?

17 Oct 2006, 22:24
didn't work here is try no 3

Re: How to make this popular bright piano (mp3 inside)?

17 Oct 2006, 22:25
it is not attaching.

it is only 212kb mp3 file?????

sorry I don't know why it won't go.

Re: How to make this popular bright piano (mp3 inside)?

18 Oct 2006, 01:58
here is try no 4

Re: How to make this popular bright piano (mp3 inside)?

18 Oct 2006, 12:28
da-man, if it doesn't work here, perhaps you could upload your file on http://www.yousendit.com. Works very fast.

By the way, is your file the JD-800 ROM patch (tweaked?) or samples you used cause you say "JD-800 piano sample"?

Anyway, I really would love to hear it!!

Re: How to make this popular bright piano (mp3 inside)?

18 Oct 2006, 13:05
Hi fixthemix,

No no, you didn't waste your time! ;) I was just listening to it and was going to write a reply.

From what I hear, I have to say it sounds rather different from the audio demo I posted. Does that mean the Fantom X can't make this piano sound I posted? Thing is the piano I posted is used in alot of pop/rock/dance tunes these days, has become a bit of a standard, so it would be a bit of a shame if the Fantom X can't do this.

Maybe the JD-800 piano isn't a good starting point? Maybe the "Bright Tune patch" someone mentioned would be a better starting point?

If anybody can post a Fantom X piano demo closer to the one I posted, PLEASE do. Here is the original again: http://users.skynet.be/soundfiles/bright_piano.mp3 It's very similar to Coldplay etc.. but with more high EQ added I think.

Note: if you have no upload space, you can use http://www.yousendit.com/ to do a quick upload. You don't even need to convert to mp3, you can upload longer wav files there without problems!

Re: How to make this popular bright piano (mp3 inside)?

18 Oct 2006, 13:23
Hi Dance,

I just wanted you to know that it can be done. Hint* Bright Tune is a good upper voice. (Think octave) Equalization / -15[dB] Low Gain In lower octave. If you listen closely, it is definitely octaves you hear. I might post an mp3 later as I don't have the time now.

Cheers!

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Re: How to make this popular bright piano (mp3 inside)?

19 Oct 2006, 01:22
unfortunately that website to upload the sample is blocked from my work location.

It is a straight JD-800 piano sound from the Fantom with no tweaks except I usually have the mastering turned on. (you can change eq etc sound using the mastering)

I'll try here again.

Re: How to make this popular bright piano (mp3 inside)?

19 Oct 2006, 06:39
Dance123

I'm glad I didn't waste my time ;-)
Anyway, sorry, but I think my piano sounds are pretty close. The only major diference is that in your mp3 you also have a sinth sound layered with the piano. You should also tweak EQ and FX a little more. I haven't done that. So you can be sure you'll get that type of sound with a Fantom.


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Re: How to make this popular bright piano (mp3 inside)?

20 Oct 2006, 14:17
I'm sure you can coax that sound out of the Fantom X.

But frankly, that sound has Yamaha Motif written all over it (and I don't mean that in a good way.)


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Re: How to make this popular bright piano (mp3 inside)?

20 Oct 2006, 15:16
^^^

Not sure if its yamaha, but it could very well have been. I saw it played live on tv, and I am almost certain he used an accoustic piano, or at least a digital piano that looked like an accoustic... It wasn't a motif used in the performance, but who knows, studio work and live work are different ball games... I may be wrong about the piano...

You can certainly get very close to the sound.. The reason I don't say exactly; there may be un-noticable differences, due to the process that comes with recreating a patch... Basically your trying to imitate, and unless your using the original piece, its impossible to get the exact sound, but not impossible to get 99.999999 of that sound...

I tried the other night to create the sound, and was coming very close, but I had a black out in my neighborhood, and well I wasn't saving periodically... After lossing everything after about 1 hour of patch play, I gave up.. Was going to save it, and put an mp3 on here. Too bad... Maybe I'll try again soon, too bad I don't recall the tones I used... or the filter settings... It was 4am...

You can certainly come very very very close... With effects and maybe layering. It can be done..

Re: How to make this popular bright piano (mp3 inside)?

21 Oct 2006, 13:08
Hi,

Since I don't have a Fantom X, I still hope somebody who is capable of programming this piano sound would be so kind to post an audio demo. I would really, really appreciate it alot!!

Here is the original audio demo again: http://users.skynet.be/soundfiles/bright_piano.mp3. You hear this sound alot in rock and dance productions.

For a fast 1-click upload of even large files, you can also use http://www.rapidshare.de.

PS: an earlier reply by piaknowguy sounds interesting: "I just wanted you to know that it can be done. Hint* Bright Tune is a good upper voice. (Think octave) Equalization / -15[dB] Low Gain In lower octave. If you listen closely, it is definitely octaves you hear."

I hope somebody can finally do this! Thanks very much!!

Re: How to make this popular bright piano (mp3 inside)?

21 Oct 2006, 16:32
my 2 cents; fantom x "bright piano"

This is actually not the JD, but a patch with a-bank AC.Pno f A left and right, 4 stereo tones of which 2 are pitched up an octave, and bandpass filters varying between 90 and 110. All velocity sensitivity was killed, and there's a wee bit of resonance as well as keyboard tracking on the cutoff.

There's still a noticable difference with the original, but it's a good first attempt ;) It's still too "warm", and the original has a louder "click" in the attack sound.

Re: How to make this popular bright piano (mp3 inside)?

21 Oct 2006, 17:03
^^^^

Great job on that Peterned.. I played them side by side, and I can say, maybe just an adjust on the EQ (highs, perhaps alittle mids ) and your smack dead on...

Can't forget the equipment and consoles and post production (mastering) that these sounds went through for the original, coming straight from the fantom, its just another example of what sounds are possible...

Re: How to make this popular bright piano (mp3 inside)?

23 Oct 2006, 14:40
Hi Peterned,

Great audio demo, the best so far, close to the original!

So you used the same waveform in all 4 tones of the patch, am I correct?

Did you use bandpass filters on all 4 tones? Which filter settings did you use for each tone?

Thanks!

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