Fantom sounds are "raw"?, ok I want to learn

5 Oct 2006, 00:56

I have been messing around with different waves in patch edit/pro edit. I was able to learn the solo/porta from the manual, but that rest of that stuff I have no idea! I don't know much about LFO's & TVA's & TVS's so I really don't know what I am adjusting. I started to read the free tweakbook but was unable to apply it to my FX7. I know it is mostly my fault because I should learn the terminology, but how? I want to be able to adjust how long a sound last for (sustain?) when I hit the key, adjust what happens when I hit the key harder, ect... I am not even sure what waves I can do this with. For example what is A-Env T1 V-sen on my screen? I have been reading a lost of post latley and I want to make the sound I have better because it looks I am missing out on alot of what this machine can do. (bare with me)

Jeff FX7

Jeff FX7

Re: Fantom sounds are "raw"?, ok I want to learn

5 Oct 2006, 02:50

Check out the Fantom TweakBook, it's a fantastic resource.

Re: Fantom sounds are "raw"?, ok I want to learn

5 Oct 2006, 03:06

Sound on Sound features a heap of articles on synthesis:
http://www.soundonsound.com/search?url=%2Fsearch&Section=8&Subject=12

I agree that it's quite a daunting task to familiarize yourself with the ins and outs of synthesis when you're more or less starting from scratch. For every 1 thing you manage to find out, there seem to be 2 new things you hadn't heard of before

If I were you, I'd start out with the simple things; cutoff, resonance, applying asdr envelopes to various settings. Learn through understaning, and you'll be able to better combine what you've leart into new sounds.

and check the parameter map:
http://www.fantomized.info/docs/tutorials/FantomSX-TweakMap.pdf

Re: Fantom sounds are "raw"?, ok I want to learn

5 Oct 2006, 03:15

I think the best way to learn is tweaking with knobs and push buttons and see/hear what happens... I was learning this way. There is too much to explain.

Step By Step :
First of all : Select a patch close to what you want. (A piano patch is a good way to start tweaking for training. "PR-A:008 JD-800 Piano.") In a patch you can have a totaly of 4 waveforms(sounds) togheter, but start with one waveform first . Find the patch PR-A:008 JD-800 Piano and select "Tone sw/se". Now you can see only one letter is yellow. This means that only one waveform is used in this patch. Also, be sure that the other number 1 is red.(Tone Select) This means that you are going to edit waveform #1 in that patch. Then press the button "Patch Edit", and select "Pro Edit". Now you can see a whole list of parameters you can edit. You can browse the category with the arrows up and down. Browse down to "TVF" (Filter that makes the waveform "darker/lighter") Select "Filter type" and set it to "LPF". Select "Cutoff Frequency" and set this to "30". Now you have a dark sounding waveform. Try setting this to "127", and you will get a sharp waveform. This is only one way to edit the waveform in "TVF". There is a lot of other cool features in "TVF" and "TVF Env" to make the waveform sound crazy

Try for yourself.

Its best to start trying, "Wave", "TVF", "TVA", "TVA env", and "LFO1". This is the most common parameters.

Hope this wil help you get starting, but the best way is to try. And be patient.

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Re: Fantom sounds are "raw"?, ok I want to learn

5 Oct 2006, 12:04

It would also help if you work with an analog or analog modeling synth. You could find one at a music store or better yet, a software version by google-ing something like "Free VST Synth". There's a mini-moog out there which would really be a good starter synth. This allows you to tweak knobs in real time and hear immediate results (the fantom has so many features that you probably don't know where to start). Once you mess around with that for a while, going back to the fantom won't be as challenging.