Midi between boards

20 Sep 2006, 06:13

I've a RD700SX and a Fantom X7. SRX Ultimate Keys in the RD700SX and SRX Complete Orchestra in the X7. I'd like to know how read the sounds out of the SRX Complete Orchestra in the X7 and play them on the RD700SX in a performance via midi. I don't want to buy another SRX Complete Orchestra.

Clear as mud... yeh.

Can anyone help? Roland Tech Support is useless.

Re: Midi between boards

20 Sep 2006, 06:47

Can't be done. The card has samples that can only be loaded with the card loaded.

Re: Midi between boards

20 Sep 2006, 07:03

You cannot "transfer" SRX sounds between the boards, but you can MIDI them up and trigger the 700SX sounds from the Fantom.

Re: Midi between boards

20 Sep 2006, 07:03

Eh, I thought it was possible to send midi messages from external equipment like the RD700SX to the fantom and make it play stuff. I haven't done it myself, but I am sure somebody else here can fill you in with the details.

Another option of course is to move the Ultimate Keys srx from the RD700SX to the Fantom and have both cards in the same workstation. Less equipment to carry around as well

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Re: Midi between boards

21 Sep 2006, 01:02

Yeh, can be done via midi. i.e. like you say, the RD700 will play the sound through the Fantom. Set up a perfomance, bla bla bla.

Bits work. but not the lot..... ah, i don't know.

The user manual briefly goes into this but i get lost.

I need it in laymens terms.

Tech support say's "all can be done" and will send me the detail via email, but i aint seen nothing yet. That was 3-4 weeks ago.

I really don't want to buy ANOTHER expansion card.

I need two Boards (at least)

Re: Midi between boards

21 Sep 2006, 01:07

Anyone??
Know much about Midi..... Midi Triggering??

Re: Midi between boards

21 Sep 2006, 04:18

Have you got as far as using the Fantom to trigger the sounds that are in the Rd700 or is that where you're getting stuck?

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Re: Midi between boards

21 Sep 2006, 05:19

So far i've gotten the Fantom to read the RD700SX but it's also playing other sounds as well. eg. the sound that might be presently in the Fantom at that time. ??????????

But what I want to happen is for the RD700SX to trigger the Fantom sounds.
eg. I want to play the SRX Harpsichord sounds from the Fantom on the RD700SX.

Re: Midi between boards

21 Sep 2006, 05:30

Sounds like you need to make sure that the controller device, ie the one you are actually pressing the keys on, has the correct parts set to internal or external sounds.

Generally speaking when you set up a performance on a midi instrument you can configure whether the midi channel plays internal sounds, or goes stright out of the midi out without playing internal sounds.

I've never used a RD700SX but that's the principle that you need to follow.

**JUNO-G**
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Re: Midi between boards

21 Sep 2006, 05:50

Yep, You are on the money!!!

Now all I gotta do is work it out???

A step by step guide would be great!!!

RD700SX, JUNO-G, even a Korg.
Surely it's all the same principle?

Re: Midi between boards

21 Sep 2006, 06:10

You say you have looked in the manual, but get lost. Are you talking about the fantom manual or the RD700SX manual? What is it in the manual that you dont understand?

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Re: Midi between boards

21 Sep 2006, 06:21

I do what is says to do(to the best of my knoledge) but it do't seem to work. I'll go get the manual, I'll be back

Re: Midi between boards

21 Sep 2006, 06:44

OK the Fantom Owners manual doesn't have much at all, or it's encripted??

The RD700SX has a little more but is not clear (in my view) and has a heading SELECTING SOUNDS ON A EXTERNAL MIDI DEVICE and another titled MIDI SEND CHANNEL SETTINGS.

But where is this in the Fantom Owners manual and/or how is it executed.

To be honest which one do I follow? Am I possibly looking at this the wrong way? Does midi actualy work backward to my understanding?

The fact still remains where are the Fantoms instructions in this area?

What is MSB, LSB & PC.........(PC=No. ???)

Re: Midi between boards

21 Sep 2006, 06:53

The Performing with the Fantom (PDF) tutorial has a section on using the Fantom as a master, which is the reverse of what you are trying to achieve. Take a look and see if it clears things up.

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Re: Midi between boards

21 Sep 2006, 11:43

This is really so simple ....if you have never changed the MIDI settings on your Keyboards - wich I suppose you haven't

Take a MIDI cable from the RD MIDI OUT 1 to Fantom's MIDI IN

Place theFantom in Patch Mode and select the sound you want to use on the Fantom.

Now, on the RD, press EXTERNAL and UPPER 1 - you should now be sending MIDI messages on channel 1 thru the RD MIDI OUT.

Considering you have the Fantom receiving on channel 1 (check it in MENU-SYSTEM-MIDI - KBD PATCH RX/TX = "x" ) if you play in RD both keyboard will play and you have a go

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hear what I've done with the 7