Juno-G features, or lack of them

ORIGINALLY POSTED BY SKYY38 ...

" I think the Juno G will be a better deal at FULL price than the Fusion ever was at CUT price.

Apples and Oranges-depends on what you need.

And the Fusion was released FAR too early-way flawed.

It's sounds don't even BEGIN to compare to Rolands... "

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Well, um, I have an X and a Fusion, I can tell you the Fusion compares extremely well in the sound department ...

I don't know what you're basing your analysis on, but mine is from extensive studio use with the latest OS and all of the soundbank additions and scads of free programs from Hollow Sun ...

... with four synthesis types -- it really does make a difference you can hear -- nothing's "blowing away" the Fusion ...

... so much so that I'm considering selling my X7 (if the Fusion was 76 key, it probably would have happened already) ... but they're just different enough that I'll probably keep both (for now anyway) ... and keep in mind, this is judging against the X, which costs twice as much as the G and has MANY features the G lacks.

... one Fusion feature that's particularly nice for getting a great sound every time is the super-easy-to-use front panel EQ controls ... I find the Fantom's EQ unusable on-the-fly ...

As for the Fusion being released too early ... perhaps ... but just about everything has been fixed since then ... new buyers have nothing to worry about ... and we can all thank the early bugs for the crazy-low price now ...

The Juno-G and Fusion are hardly "apples and oranges" ... if they are, it's only becuase the Fusion is a real-full-featured workstation while the Juno-G is a wannabe workstation ...

I'm not saying the Juno-G is a bad choice ... anything but ... however, your statements are a tad over the top and perhaps more than a little uninformed against somebody who currently owns both of the machines in question (granted, my Roland is the X -- but I don't think anybody is saying the G will sound BETTER than the X).

BTW, if you're trying to present yourself as in the know and authoritative, it perhaps would be best not to start your post with a simple question like "What is RPS?"

Oh, and about the piano sounds ... can't say for myself ... but actual people with Internet connections have heard the G's new piano ... the board's out in Japan and has been played with at trade shows, etc.

There's no way it will be as good as the Fantom's Ultimate Grand, which may mean it will be on par with the Fusion's Holy Grail Piano, which is quite decent and playable.

Goes particularly well EQed against the X7s Ultimate Grand, capabe, in one application, of giving it, IMO, a very Motif-like piano ... (a kind of full-bodied shrillness and "perfection" of sound) ... impressive but unrealistic and tacky ... too ice-pick ... Ice picks are for bartenders and Sharon Stones.






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Roland Fantom X7, Alesis Fusion 6HD, Novation X/A-Station 25, Alesis Micron

somebody konws.. if in other keyboards.like Korg Tr or Yamaha Mo6.have these functions that lack in juno G about sequencer..like RPS and pattern.... please answer my doubt...!!!! i wait. thanks!

the TR doesn't have sampling standard ... and the MO doesn't offer it at all ... so don't discount the G out of hand ... other than that though, the TR maybe scores in some areas ... but remember it doesn't have audio tracks AT ALL ...

None of them really compare to the Fusion as a proper workstation, though ...



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Roland Fantom X7, Alesis Fusion 6HD, Novation X/A-Station 25, Alesis Micron

Tell ya what.. if Roland offers a Os update in a year or so on the G like they did the X'es and adds those features theres goona be some noise on the fourms then!!
I ordered one.. The price is right!!! it looks like my 106 ( my first board ) which ive missed since I traded it for a JV1010 which i found a pain to navigate.
The G looks semi portable like a xp30. The sounds are fresh and crisp. Im gonna throw the ultimate keys expansion board in if and when I see one cheap, theres a ton of stuff on there.
Thats just really good bang for the buck!!

Roland has no history of adding major features to their OS releases. I doubt they will add any functionality to the G other than bug fixes.

jonathan
http://www.synthblock.com

I agree completely.
This update adds:
- Record Audio Tracks with MFX inserted.
- Solo Sample with MFX.
- Support for the SRX-12 Expansion Board
There were some upgrades added in the patch. yes nothing major. im just trying to be optimistic moving forward that things could happen if theres a large enough customer base.

I've sort of given up on Roland that they're going to fix the "problems" with the Fantom: crappy file structure, interface quibbles, more functionality ...

I don't think they see them as "problems" or that it's expected of future repeat customers to surprise them with added value and service.





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Roland Fantom X7, Alesis Fusion 6HD, Novation X/A-Station 25, Alesis Micron

Not that I'm trying to start a fight here ... but I'm curious as to what more Skyy38 has to say on this matter.

I just wish Roland would ship the darn thing so we can be done with the speculation.



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Roland Fantom X7, Alesis Fusion 6HD, Novation X/A-Station 25, Alesis Micron