V-XT vs the V-kb. Yes another one.

For me who has a keyboard V-Synth, XT is a bargain as it has VC-1 and VC-2 inside, plus it's darned compact. But I actually prefer the keyboard version due to the dedicated knobs, sliders, and realtime controllers, and of course the black and white keys

It's all up to you - if you have no space in the studio or want to save up on keyboard + VC-1/2, get the XT.

Wow, thanks for the fast reply!

Considering the price of the XT vs the V-synth (here in Japan)it does seem very tempting, which brings me to some other questions though....

I do actually have a few other boards here, but one of the important issues would be the TTpad. I never have actually put my hands onto an XT, but it seems by watching the demo-videos that there may be a little lag when using the on-screen XY/TTpad - is this really the case? To those that have played with both - how do they compare?

Knowing I could use the XT's touch-screen with the same level of response would definitely push me towards the XT. D-beams aren't that much of an issue as I have them on another instrument.

Hi Hollowcell,

I have an XT and it's been nothing but joy.....I really like it's super compact design as it fits snuggly under my X6 so it works well. As far as the TT/XY pad goes, there's absolutely no lag within the control.... it's (to me) just as expressive as the board..Although I've only played the KB version at the store, when I use to dream about owning one, so I can't make an acurate comparison, but from what I remember, It is the same....The "lag" u saw in the demo is the grafix of the XY 'finger target' that is not as fast as your finger is, but it catches up...but that is only grafix, the sound and whatever parameter is assigned to the XY actualy follows your finger to a 'T'....same with the TT pad...very acurate....just make sure your fingernails are trimmed back enough so that u don't scratch the screen...even though it seems impossile to scratch, I'm sure it's not.

And if u have other instruments with the D beams then go for the XT...don't worry about all the sliders and the knobs the board has, cuz the 8 knobs do an awsome job of controlin it. Every page u touch, the knobs adjust to that page, so It's very little that u loose goin the XT route, but as I'm sure u already know, the little u loose on the keyboard, u gain Big with extras the XT...especially u already havin D beams. And its cheaper over there? this is a no brainer.

Good luck....

Septimo ,'^)
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Do any of you use the XT on stage? I don't mean just as a rackmounted sound module but using the touchscreen or knobs on stage? I've got mine in a rack and it's wonderful in the studio but I'm wondering how to set it up at a gig to make it easy to use the TT pad for example.

-illiac

I find it more accesible. I am not saying it is in a bad place on the keyboard, but with the XT I have my choice of where I want it, left or right, high or low. I use a bunch of stuff on stage so this flexibilty is great. Sometimes I have it rackmounted and to my left and I play the TT pad with my left hand. Some shows I have it on a quik-lok locator stand that I have built a little wood piece for and I can roll it to wherever is comfortable and playable. I really like the flexibilty of the XT, not to mention I already have way too many keyboards.

Mark

small records can make big sounds

Thanks for the feedback guys.

Septimo, that's exactly what I wanted to hear. I was hoping that it would be a graphics lag rather than the actual parameter changes lagging behind. I am in the same position you were I think - having only played the keyboard version at the store. I just can't find the XT anywhere locally.

As far as the programming controls go it doesn't look like too much of a problem with the XT. I read the manual yesterday and as you said you can set the 8 controllers to "Indiv Knob" mode (I think that's what it was called) so the knobs will switch to what ever is on the edit screen - really cool idea!

No doubt about it, they are great little boxes.

Wow, in japan and can't find one locally? Can u have one delivered to japan from somewhere not too far from japan?

or do u mean 'locally' as in the city u're in? or 'locally' as in all of japan?

Septimo ,'^)
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I mean locally as in 'the city I'm living in'.

I live in a small town (by Japanese standards) and travelling to one of the bigger citys will cost more than the money I'd save with buying the XT instead of the keyboard.

There is one store near by which I could ask to get a demo one in, but usually Japanese policy is quite ridgid with this sort of thing and my guess is that they won't.

Anyway, I have some time later this week and I'll be heading in to check out the situation. If they won't get a demo for me, at least I'll have the feedback of a few users to make my choice easier.

funny in america the xt is $200 more than the keyboard. I also thought it should be cheaper in fact this is my only complaint, but I ponyed up in the end because it was the best end solution for me space and setupwise.

mark

small records can make big sounds

Personally I have the V-Synth, and I could under no circumstance live without it. I would definately choose the keyboard over the rack, as I find the d-beams a must-have, plus the keyboard action is very, very good.

Yeah, we know Hugo....But for 'us' who already have a nice board or other instruments with D-beam(s), it really is'nt necessary to have the Keyboard version, especially if space is an issue, and u really need (or want) the power of a V. For me, if Roland would have never made the XT, it would have made the difference of me having one or not, since I don't have the space for another board. So I would have never had one...Thanx Roland for thinkin of us, who have no more space, and not compromising the control, and expresivenes of the V in the process...I salute u!!.. tip your hat Hugo, and show your respect too!

There are two types of V users, those who need the keyboard version, and those who need the rack mount. U, need the board, I need the rack..u have the extra controls, I have the extra percs....."What a wonderful world!"

Septimo ,'^)
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I have the XT and I'm impressed with almost all of it's layout, functions, and sounds. I have a variety of keyboards to control this beast - Fantom S (with D beam etc.), Karma (with a variety of rotary controls and midi TX Karma functions), and Kawai M8000 88 piano feel weighted keyboard controller with a host of other functions, etc. In all, the D beam can be compensated for with any of the rotary control and touch screen on the XT or any of the rotary controls or sliders on my other keyboards. It's a matter of preferrence - passing your hand or fingers over a beam controller or using a joystick, slider, or rotary dial etc. That's my take on it.
Cheers,
Eric

EJ2 - Double EJ Projects Karma Combi Collections - http://spaces.msn.com/members/EJ2/

Period.

Septimo ,'^)
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I have the keyboard, but I could care less for the d-beams- so I bought a theremin. If you have the room and like lots'o controlls and not having to switch between ttpad and you regular touchscreen interface and need a good set of keys due to net having a controller, then get the KB. If you want a set of balanced outputs, as well as usb audio and the extra vc-1 and vc-2 cards and need to save space and don't mind not having a lot of knobs to twiddle and have a midi controller- then the rack is a good solution. With all the perks of the xt I would almost consider it mkII, god I wish my keyboard came with the little extras on the xt- the colour touchscreen is awesome too. But just because of all the knobs and controll making it ultra playablr, I had to get the kb (also the xt wasn't out yet- haha). If the xt is cheaper, I would pick that up instead. It's really sweet.

Well I'll be your huckleberry....