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Keyboard ranges through midi?

Keyboard ranges through midi?

16 Oct 2022, 04:21
Hi everyone!

I hope you can help me with this issue. I have my FA-06 connected to my DAW (Cubase) through the USB and I can record each tone while playing in different midi tracks. BUT, if I
I haved set different keyboard ranges for different tones this is not translated to Cubase and all tones behave as they were fullrange. So this becomes a mess because if I have a split with bass in the lower part and piano in the upper one, in Cubase the two tones sound and are recorded with every note pressed (as layered)

Is it possible to translate the keyboard ranges to cubase via midi?

Thanks in advance

Re: Keyboard ranges through midi?

16 Oct 2022, 05:00
Hi Tone,

You ask ' is it possible to translate the keyboard ranges to cubase via midii'?

I am not sure exactly what you mean? Do you want to record midi or audio in your DAW?

Don't know if this helps but...I decided that there are severe difficulties and limitations using and manipulating midi in the FA06. The capabilities, options and ease of using the DAW as the main source was the way to go. Decided to move 300 plus songs stored in the FA to the DAW as midi. Now I play all songs on the FA via USB to the FA using midi. I have also moved on from that and use sounds and plugins in the DAW to replace sounds on some tracks with those in the DAW as they can be far superior. Drums, real orchestra sounds, etc.

I set up a template in my DAW with 16 midi tracks : one set to each of the track inputs. Played the Song on the FA and recorded them all in one sweep. Most of my tracks are full rage keys. Where I have split-up a tracks key range, there is a simple utensil to add to a track to identify a lower and/or up range limit . It also has a raise or lower Octave level option.

I am using Ableton but expect Cubas has same capabilities.

Re: Keyboard ranges through midi?

16 Oct 2022, 07:29
Toce wrote:
I have my FA-06 connected to my DAW (Cubase) through the USB and I can record each tone while playing in different midi tracks. BUT, if I
I haved set different keyboard ranges for different tones this is not translated to Cubase and all tones behave as they were fullrange. So this becomes a mess because if I have a split with bass in the lower part and piano in the upper one, in Cubase the two tones sound and are recorded with every note pressed (as layered)
I don't have an FA myself, nor have I ever used Cubase, but most if not all Rolands use split ranges internally only, the split ranges are not seen over MIDI. The "layering" problem then would occur if the DAW is seeing your lower and upper parts coming in on the same MIDI channel (or is otherwise for some reason placing them on the same MIDI channel), and is therefore sending them out over the same MIDI channel (where, again, split ranges are not seen). So the answer would seem to be to make sure that when you record the track playing your bass on the lower part and piano on the upper part, Cubase is placing these two sounds onto different MIDI channels. As long as the two parts are recorded into Cubase on two different channels, you should be able to play them back so that they only trigger notes within their desired range. Since the FA allows you to put the sounds on two different channels to begin with, you should be able to record them that way... in fact, I would have thought that would have been its default operation. But it sounds like either you don't have the two sounds on two different MIDI channels in the Roland, or if you do, you have some other Roland or Cubase setting that is resulting in the elimination of that separation at some point later in the chain of events.

Worst case, if you can't figure out what settings are needed to address this, I guess you could record you upper and lower parts separately to begin with.

Re: Keyboard ranges through midi?

17 Oct 2022, 10:20
I have an FA-07. The FA 06/07/08 split capability (based on Studio Sets) is focused primarily on how its internal synth uses the MIDI signals sent to it from the built-in physical keyboard. At least in most cases, when you use this FA split capability it does not impact what it sends as MIDI output (I have only tried sending its MIDI output to a Nord Electro 3, and not to a DAW, but I think this test still proved this point).

Here is why I said "in most cases":
There was a function "Using the FA as a Master Keyboard" which was added in the Version 2.0 of the firmware for the Roland FA series.
It is described on page 3 of this PDF document: https://static.roland.com/assets/media/pdf/FA-06_07_08_ver20_eng01_W.pdf
This might address part of what you are asking about, but I am not sure (I have never tested this).

Re: Keyboard ranges through midi?

24 Jul 2023, 22:12
This is possible when doing it from the PCM tone edit page 1,2,3,4
1 = Bass c0 - b3
2 = Piano c4 - g9
3 = Strings c4 - g9
4 = off

when transmitted cubase sees it as one tone, one midi channel

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