Supernatural Drums For Fantom? [Request]

8 Mar 2022, 16:47

I'm not sure how other people feel about this, but I feel like the drums on the Fantom could be a little bit better in some areas, mostly the acoustic drums. I know you can load samples and the like, but I was wondering how everyone else was on the idea of having SuperNatural drums from the Fantom G or even the Roland V-Drums. I think the it's one of the few sonic areas where the Fantom struggles a little bit is having a wide variety of convincing acoustic drums. Just a suggestion for Roland and would love to know what the community's feedback is on this? Thanks! :D

Re: Supernatural Drums For Fantom? [Request]

4 Apr 2022, 20:39

Also the supernatural acoustic electric and distorted guitar. In fact, i don't understand why they don't put every supernatural acoustic tone they ever created (the ones in the Integra) inside the Fantom. That would become the ultimate Roland machine. I don't get it.

Re: Supernatural Drums For Fantom? [Request]

6 Apr 2022, 01:47

DNGmaestro wrote:

Also the supernatural acoustic electric and distorted guitar. In fact, i don't understand why they don't put every supernatural acoustic tone they ever created (the ones in the Integra) inside the Fantom. That would become the ultimate Roland machine. I don't get it.

Because they need to keep selling Integra7 which is still in catalogue ;-)

Re: Supernatural Drums For Fantom? [Request]

6 Apr 2022, 08:56

Integra 7 does not offer any adjustment in the keyboard range, according to its owner's manual and to my surprise.

https://www.roland.com/uk/support/by_product/integra-7/owners_manuals/8303449f-6899-4a1b-9610-5694d2e8c8af/

I first thought to buy It for the EXT parts in Fantom but since INT and EXT keyboard ranges are currently matched to each other, also to my surprise, then Integra 7 turns nearly useless if one is planning to use INT+EXT, that is, BOTH under ADVANCED, that was added to ZONE INT/EXT CONTROL from System program Ver 2.0.

So a double bass using C2-C5 in Integra 7 and a violin in Fantom going G3-G7 is now impossible under the same zone.

Re: Supernatural Drums For Fantom? [Request]

6 Apr 2022, 12:35

I'm agree; Integra 7 is the Roland synth with the biggest Supernatural sound collection.
Supernatural Drums are missing on Fantom and SRX01 (nice acoustic drums too) is missing too.

Re: Supernatural Drums For Fantom? [Request]

6 Apr 2022, 12:44

But Spectrasonics collaborated with Roland to create SRX01, it's same problem with signature sounds (bass and drums) on SRX07.
Supernatural Drums use V-Drum technology on Integra 7.

Re: Supernatural Drums For Fantom? [Request]

6 Apr 2022, 21:31

FGM wrote:
Integra 7 does not offer any adjustment in the keyboard range, according to its owner's manual and to my surprise.

https://www.roland.com/uk/support/by_product/integra-7/owners_manuals/8303449f-6899-4a1b-9610-5694d2e8c8af/

I first thought to buy It for the EXT parts in Fantom but since INT and EXT keyboard ranges are currently matched to each other, also to my surprise, then Integra 7 turns nearly useless if one is planning to use INT+EXT, that is, BOTH under ADVANCED, that was added to ZONE INT/EXT CONTROL from System program Ver 2.0.

So a double bass using C2-C5 in Integra 7 and a violin in Fantom going G3-G7 is now impossible under the same zone.

If I am understanding you correctly, you should be able to set the keyboard range for each part on the Integra in the Part View settings menu under the KBD tab. Reference page 32 of the manual.

Re: Supernatural Drums For Fantom? [Request]

7 Apr 2022, 01:34

Cheeses....

Thank you very much, Asoyini.

I saw this part...
[attachment: KBD 1.jpg]
and missed this other one...

[attachment: KBD 2.jpg]

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Re: Supernatural Drums For Fantom? [Request]

7 Apr 2022, 11:47

FGM wrote:
Cheeses....

Thank you very much, Asoyini.

I saw this part...

KBD 1.jpg

and missed this other one...

KBD 2.jpg

You're welcome! 🙂

Re: Supernatural Drums For Fantom? [Request]

7 Apr 2022, 21:06

DNGmaestro wrote:

Also the supernatural acoustic electric and distorted guitar. In fact, i don't understand why they don't put every supernatural acoustic tone they ever created (the ones in the Integra) inside the Fantom. That would become the ultimate Roland machine. I don't get it.

Even some of the SN stuff they do have on the Fantom is apparently hampered. For example, the acoustic and electric pianos seem to have almost all of their parameters and some of the "nuances" to the sounds removed as compared to implementations in other products.

Re: Supernatural Drums For Fantom? [Request]

10 Apr 2022, 09:51

Thank you, Lazerlike42.

I always thought something was missing.

Now I understand why they are so little configurable in Fantom, and that fact always pushes me to hardly use them but as first voices, as the adjustments available via zone offsets are most of the time not sufficient.

So SuperNatural is not a fixed wonder, it just depends on the hardware and the "SuperNatural type" they placed in it...how funny.