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Possible new FA-07 user

Re: Possible new FA-07 user

29 Mar 2018, 09:27
In my mind Korg know how to market their stuff, they're very fresh with social media and branding - they have great demonstrators who go to the main retailers with youtube presence, and sell a product that you want.... usually until you play it in person. :)

You've then got Yamaha who always seem to be the blue eyed boys at most of the retailers, i don't know if it's a commission thing, or they look after retailers well that they've warranted that respect - but you speak to sales staff and Yamaha is always recommended. Perhaps they're very safe to recommend.

Then Roland, clearly going through a transition in the past few years, appearing to have replaced the Fantom line-up with a 'cheaper' Chinese made workstation in the FA ... And it's a little bit confusing, at least when it first came out as to 'what' it is (i.e. Juno or Fantom level?) I think that's why it's not so high on the radar, many people tip-toed their way towards it, with wariness.

Also, i don't know what's happened, but sales staff don't seem overly motivated to push Roland, all the stores around me have the Roland gear in the very far end of the store and most units you have to ask to move the power or speaker/headphones plugged in to them to audition. Perhaps the budget isn't there for Roland to push it at the retailers?!

Also the -06 keys makes it hard for respectful shop staff to sell to people who know a decent keybed, along with the original 'scratchy'/hard to read surface. Most people would dismiss it on those two factors, despite what it can do.

Another factor is how the FA range seems split across Yamaha/Korg rival products, despite being the same unit, the i feel -06 is clearly offset towards the MOXF/Kross range, now the -07 has arrived seems to be vs Krome ranges, and the -08 is peaking towards anything above that by default (i.e. Larger Kromes/Kronos/Motif).

Because the Fantom line doesn't seem to be there anymore, it does sit in a strange place in the market vs it's main rivals, and has to stretch quite a wide margin. I think that also doesn't go in it's favour, as what an earth do you compare it to?! I'd rant and rave about the FA vs a Kross for example, but not so much vs a Kronos, other than it's 'cheaper'.

Let's be honest here, you can nearly buy two -06's for the price of an -08.

I wish it was part of the Juno range and styling, with a new fantom on top of the FA with advanced sampling, extended SuperNATURAL, and maybe advanced the arpeggiators to be more dynamic and multiple instances across parts.

As daft as it sounds, i think it would then get many more plaudits as it would have a clear position in the market. Anyone who's walked the Fantom line now have hit a brick wall and would be looking at making compromises if they want to transition to the FA range for the new sound engines. And that's in build quality AND feature sets.

Re: Possible new FA-07 user

29 Mar 2018, 11:42
I want to thank those who responded to my post, it very much helped and didn't confuse too much! :)

My idea of using the BK7M with a workstation just kept bringing me full circle back to the fact that the BK7M, while being excellent for some uses, is horrible in other uses.

In another forum it was suggested to look at the Casio MZ-X500 arranger/workstation. I did just that and found that it may very well meet my wants. So I ordered one from a place that allows 30 day returns so my only cost for this trial could be shipping both ways.

Again thanks.

Re: Possible new FA-07 user

29 Mar 2018, 11:49
I am not nearly as well versed in the market as Skijumptoes, so I appreciate the insights.

I have owned various pieces of gear over the years, starting with a Casio CZ-5000, going on to a Sequential Circuits Prophet VS, and then to a Roland FP-8 digital piano. When that died, I got a Yamaha P-80, and then replaced that with the Roland V-Grand. So, I went from a bit with synthesizers, right into digital pianos. I don't have experience with the various Roland synthesizers. I did have the Yamaha Motif XS8 for a time, and as I mentioned, it was really rather complicated so I was never really productive with it.

I tend to get into some area and then make it too complicated, only to back off and start over again. I really appreciate the Roland FA series because it does a lot and is so easy to use and be productive with. I don't have to attend school to learn to use it. :) It may well be that my appreciation for it wouldn't be as high if I had all the prior experience with the Roland Fantom series. since I don't, I am not missing anything about the FA series. I am not saying those points are invalid, but rather hat I don't have the experience to recognize what is missing in the FA series. I can say that it does more than I need, and I will likely not outgrow it.

Tony

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