Integra and two midi-keyboards ?

Yes but you will need either a midi merger of some sort or a computer. Set two parts to the same midi channel and change the keyboard range to create the split, do the same for the other parts you want to use but on a different channel, then connect the keyboards to send information on those channels in a studio set. Not sure about the fantom xr. The XV 5080 had 2 midi in jacks, I don't know if the dr carried this over.

Thanks for the reply Macska !

Yes I am thinking about changing my live gigs setup (to a more lightweight and transportable set).

I am also thinking about using a laptop ((Mainstage) with two midi-keyboards, but somehow it feels 'safer' when using a hardware module then (in case of the Integra eventually combined with Ipad editor)

CJ

This is exactly how I use my integra. I have 2 keyboards. A studiologic 88 key semi weighted piano action and a 61 key fantom x6. Both are hooked up via midi to to my Mac mini via motu interfaces. Mainstage is the brains that controls everything. I simply set up a concert template called integra 7. I set up single sound patches and multi sound patches as needed. With program Change commands any sounds (up to 16) can be assigned to a patch and can be controlled by whichever keyboard I choose as well as any splits, layers, transposes, and auto triggered chords. It works great. Sort of a way to create an integra based workstation.

I am fairly certain you could do the same with a fantom xr. Unless you already have a handful of SRX cards I cannot see going fantom xr route now that the integra has dropped to $1499 new. You would miss out on the supernatural acoustic sounds which IMO are what makes the integra worth getting. For example, IMO there are no pianos in the fantom or SRX boards that come even close to the supernatural pianos or eps.

Yes you need a computer to do this but since you are using hardware based sounds, you don't need one nearly as powerful as if you were running vsts.

Check the manuals for your keyboards, CJ. Some keyboards have a built-in MIDI merge capability. (For example: the Fantom's.)

JunoJohn wrote:

Check the manuals for your keyboards, CJ. Some keyboards have a built-in MIDI merge capability. (For example: the Fantom's.)

Like JunoJohn suggested, look for Keyboards with the MIDI-Merge function (at least the one connected to the XR/i7.

Two examples are the Edirol/Roland PCR-300, 500, 800 series that maybe you can get second hand and the Roland A-PRO 300,500,800 series,which is still in production.

Leke others said, other option is to use an inexpensive MIDI-Merge box or the computer itself, but I'll rather prefer the 5 PIN MIDI and don't mess around with USB for that. This way you won't need the computer

Roland A-33 also has the midi-merge function. Almost 20 years ago I used a Yamaha YS-200 and the A-33 to control only one JV-880 (now don't you laugh at that!) in the same way. I managed to get al the sounds I needed by creative patch programming and keyboard splitting. Every user patch and performance were used up. :-) I must have played over 100 gigs with that setup.

Does this mean that I could use the 5 pin IN and the back panel USB (in) at the same time with 2 different controllers? My drumpad controller doesn't have USB out but my keyboard controller does. My goal for live performance is drumpad MIDI OUT to Integra MIDI IN as well as keyboard USB OUT to Integra back panel USB IN.
If that isn't possible then perhaps I could daisy chain - in other words, use the keyboard MIDI out to drumpad MIDI in (set to THRU - prayers please) then drumpad MIDI OUT to Integra MIDI IN (hopefully without latency issues).
Plan A seems logical to me if Integra accepts it - plan B if plan A fails.
Eventually, I'll throw the PC editor in the middle somewhere and reroute but will address that in a different post to avoid confusion and additional complications LOL

[attachment: studioa_integra7.JPG]this is my setup
note the midi switchers.
I use the 3x8 switchers for an a88 roland and a800 roland key beds...
the other is for a not shown in another rack of gear, sequencer a manikin scrittmacher.
so I can control lots of sounds in the Integra 7 all at the same time!
with the new setup I have 28 of the 3x8 switchers... no pix yet. that is 224 midi controlled rack units!!
off of 2 key beds...

Daisy-chaining the keyboard controller (5 pin & USB OUT only) through the multi drumpad controller (5 pin IN & 5 pin OUT set to THRU - no USB out) to the Integra (5 pin IN) works fine no latency issues and finally got some more sound library organizing done (YAY!). Ready to try and run two stand-alone editors side by side on PC (without having to load a DAW). After sleeping on it I came up with a connection scheme just now - not sure if it will work (yet) but suggestions welcomed.
Keyboard controller USB out to PC USB in to Integra editor
PC USB out to Integra USB in
Multipad 5 pin out to PC USB in (adapter) to multipad editor
PC USB out (same adapter) to 5 pin in of multipad
Both controllers accessing Integra via one PC USB out to Integra back panel USB in
Seems like this would work. Just hoping the two editors dont start fighting LOL
P.S. jaw dropping setup Iowagold! You are a real MIDI Jedi Obe Won! I can sense that the force is strong in you!

What about connecting a Roland Fantom x8 to a Mac with the I7?
The I7 goes from Midi in to the Fantom Midi out.
How do I get both (I7 and Fantom) connected to the Mac (OS Catalina) to use Mainstage 3.

m0rf wrote:

What about connecting a Roland Fantom x8 to a Mac with the I7?
The I7 goes from Midi in to the Fantom Midi out.
How do I get both (I7 and Fantom) connected to the Mac (OS Catalina) to use Mainstage 3.

In this case maybe the best is to use the simplest method, which gives you lots of flexibility, meaning:

X8 MIDI OUT (5 Pin) --> I7 MIDI IN
x8 USB --> Mac
i7 USB --> Mac

This way Mainstage can control both machines and in addition, you can drive directly the i7 from the x8's keyboard whenever you need.


Cheers,
PauloF