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Could Roland Improve the Integra-7 Rev. Via Firmware ?

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Could Roland Improve the Integra-7 Rev. Via Firmware ?

11 Jan 2015, 19:39
Hi,

I love the Integra-7 sound. But wish it had a much better quality Reverb.

Do you think it would be possible for Roland to improve the Integra-7 Reverb quality via a firmware/OS update in the future ? This would be super cool if it is possible.

i.e. I own a Clavia Nord Lead 4 (Rack), and the in latest update version 1.30, Clavia has improved the NL4 Reverb dramatically. it made a huge difference to the overall sonic quality of the NL4. I'm hoping Roland could do this to the Integra-7 as well.

I'm not sure if Roland has plans to release a new, better quality, next generation Integra-8 in the future, but for now, if they can improve the Reverb, I will be very happy.

Cheers,
Muziksculp

Re: Could Roland Improve the Integra-7 Rev. Via Firmware ?

12 Jan 2015, 07:31
Interestingly,

YAMAHA has added more Reverb types to the Motif XF via the latest OS/Firmware Update (v 1.5), so if both YAMAHA & CLavia can do it, I see no reason why Roland can't.

New Reverbs Added to Yamaha Motif XF via (OS 1.5) : HD Reverb HALL, HD Room, HD Plate

These were added in addition to the previous REV-X Type Reverb which sounds great as well, and imho all of the YAMAHA Motif XF Reverbs sound better than the Roland Integra-7 Reverb .

https://yamahasynth.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=464:exploringmotifxf1-5hdreverbs&Itemid=102

Clavia Nord Lead 4 new OS version 1.30 added a much better sounding Reverb (it has in the Nord Lead A1).

http://www.nordkeyboards.com/products/nord-lead-4/nord-lead-4-update-history

So .. Please Roland ... It's your turn, the Integra-7 deserves a much better Reverb than the one you offer at this time.

Hopefully this will happen soon !

Thanks,
Muziksculp

Re: Could Roland Improve the Integra-7 Rev. Via Firmware ?

13 Jan 2015, 17:48
I agree in that the reverberation from the Integra7 is shitty and useless.

But I'm pretty sure the reverb quality can't be changed via software upgrade as it is in the hardware, not coded in the firmware.

I use external reverb when I need it for the Integra, it sucks.


Cheers,

Je suis charlie!

Re: Could Roland Improve the Integra-7 Rev. Via Firmware ?

13 Jan 2015, 19:40
Grunwaldt wrote:
I agree in that the reverberation from the Integra7 is shitty and useless.

But I'm pretty sure the reverb quality can't be changed via software upgrade as it is in the hardware, not coded in the firmware.

I use external reverb when I need it for the Integra, it sucks.


Cheers,

Je suis charlie!
I use my MOXF's Reverb on the integra sounds, which is much ,much better than the integra's, I agree

Je Suis Charlie!
Make Music and be Happy !!
PauloF

Re: Could Roland Improve the Integra-7 Rev. Via Firmware ?

13 Jan 2015, 21:20
Having designed such a lame sounding Reverb in their new flagship Sound-module is a shame.

Their older modules such as the XV-5080, XV-1080, and JD-990 had great Reverbs onboard.

imho. The JD-990 had the best quality reverb roland designed into their modules.

Maybe they will delight us with a new Integra-8 or improve the Integra-7 Reverb, but I find it unpractical to use external reverb when I have such a nicely integrated effects system in the Integrta-7.

Oh well, let's see what happens this year.

Cheers,
Muziksculp

Re: Could Roland Improve the Integra-7 Rev. Via Firmware ?

17 Jan 2015, 10:47
It depends. But each time I compare symphonic tunes produced on my MoXF compared to my Integra, I realize that, although the Integra samples are often better, the reverb of the MoXF sounds much smoother and natural (e.g. emulating a pipe organ in a cathedral) while that of the Integra sounds acute and shrill.

Re: Could Roland Improve the Integra-7 Rev. Via Firmware ?

17 Jan 2015, 19:03
specialplant wrote:
It depends. But each time I compare symphonic tunes produced on my MoXF compared to my Integra, I realize that, although the Integra samples are often better, the reverb of the MoXF sounds much smoother and natural (e.g. emulating a pipe organ in a cathedral) while that of the Integra sounds acute and shrill.
Yes, I have the same opinion.

The integra samples are really better but the moXF effects section excels and makes a big difference overall.

One thing that I do now that I had to sell my audiobox 1818 VSL interface, is feeding the Integra Outs (1/2 - Main, 3/4 - Bass , 5/6 - Drums) via a small Mixer to the moXF Input and use the it as my extra Effects box and Sound board into the DAW.
Make Music and be Happy !!
PauloF

Re: Could Roland Improve the Integra-7 Rev. Via Firmware ?

18 Jan 2015, 01:04
imho. The Integra-7 has the worst sounding Reverb compared to all previous Roland Modules, and even Keyboards.

It makes no sense to try to fix the issue with an external reverb, when there exists such a great mixing environment inside the Integra-7. Hopefully Roland will improve the reverb via a firmware update, or offer a new, next generation Integra-8 !

Sorry .. But, Roland has screwed up big time as far as the Integra-7 Reverb.

Re: Could Roland Improve the Integra-7 Rev. Via Firmware ?

18 Jan 2015, 06:17
The chorus isn't up to much either!

Re: Could Roland Improve the Integra-7 Rev. Via Firmware ?

18 Jan 2015, 07:20
JeffB63 wrote:
The chorus isn't up to much either!


+1
Make Music and be Happy !!
PauloF

Re: Could Roland Improve the Integra-7 Rev. Via Firmware ?

18 Jan 2015, 14:21
JeffB63 wrote:
The chorus isn't up to much either!


+1

Re: Could Roland Improve the Integra-7 Rev. Via Firmware ?

18 Jan 2015, 16:02
Yesterday I tried reducing the parameter "Tone" in the reverb section to values below 30. This reduces the higher frequencies of the reverb, and to me it sounds better and warmer, but of course it is only a stopgap and not appropriate in all cases. As in live situations I always run the Integra through the line-in of my MoXF, I'm going to try applying the MoXF reverb on the line-in, which is possible. As SN-A sounds require more reverb than PCM tones (another problem already discussed here), I'm going to apply the Integra's own reverb to the SN-A tones, leave the PCM tones without and then apply the MoXF reverb to all Integra parts. I guess that's a good compromise in my case.

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