Help configure integra 7 with cubase

Hi.

I don't use cubase and the setup video was a bit small for me to see what MIDI settings you had but it looked to me that you were sending the MIDI to the editor plugin (Integra-7 Ctrl) and not the Integra-7 itself.

Try setting up a separate MIDI track which sends to Integra-7 and not Integra-7 Ctrl.

JeffB63 wrote:

Hi.

I don't use cubase and the setup video was a bit small for me to see what MIDI settings you had but it looked to me that you were sending the MIDI to the editor plugin (Integra-7 Ctrl) and not the Integra-7 itself.

Try setting up a separate MIDI track which sends to Integra-7 and not Integra-7 Ctrl.

Thank You for your rapid response.

I found that (Integra-7 Ctrl) in manual. Tha configuration is from manual.

I put a print screen from manual.

Best Regards,

Yes. Those are the instructions to get the EDITOR working within your DAW but to PLAY the Integra-7 you need to send the MIDI to the Integra-7 itself.

JeffB63 wrote:

Yes. Those are the instructions to get the EDITOR working within your DAW but to PLAY the Integra-7 you need to send the MIDI to the Integra-7 itself.

LOL.. I understand that not ever work right? It is the first product like that.

I can't play MIDI as VST Editor ?

Regards,

P.S. And when you think that Roland was the first midi key :))

Sorry nicusorb but no you don't understand it quite right actually, it's done this way in the Integra in order to avoid the redundancy of the midi messages sent to the Integra, and so it's perfectly normal you have to route the midi to the Integra from Cubase. You have to select the midi out of the desired tracks to the corresponding midi output directed towards the Integra. You can also refer to the manual to use the usb midi thru in the Intagra if you have no other midi out device on your computer setup.

So if I may suggest, you should get back to read the manual in Cubase and also get a proper information about midi routing before you jump to the conclusion that it does'nt work.

But anyway yeah, LOL!

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lol wrote:

Sorry nicusorb but no you don't understand it quite right actually, it's done this way in the Integra in order to avoid the redundancy of the midi messages sent to the Integra, and so it's perfectly normal you have to route the midi to the Integra from Cubase. You have to select the midi out of the desired tracks to the corresponding midi output directed towards the Integra. You can also refer to the manual to use the usb midi thru in the Intagra if you have no other midi out device on your computer setup.

So if I may suggest, you should get back to read the manual in Cubase and also get a proper information about midi routing before you jump to the conclusion that it does'nt work.

But anyway yeah, LOL!

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Hi lol :)) Nice nick

Maybe I do not understand, but I have a question for you: I'm sure you've seen many musical instruments that use a VST. Can you tell me even a musical instrument that you say you can not play as VST ?

P.S. Can someone help me to configure Cubase with Integra 7 ?


Best Regards,

You'd be surprised, but none of the instruments I use have a vst instrument to play, and if it did I'd sell it right away. I bought and use the Integra because I don't want to make anything music related with a computer, unless the interface reads my mind, because I cannot work with a mouse and keep my hands in shape to play the piano. So only real instruments, old school sound modules, analog mixer with inserts and sends, hardware looper/sequencer.

I think most users here managed to connect the Integra and the editor and their DAW, so you have to route the midi signal back to the Integra, you have to set this in the inspector in Cubase in each track you assign to the Integra.

So from your keyboard you have to send the signal to the MIDI input in Cubase (this can be done using the Integra USB MIDI thru function, where your keyboard is connected via midi to the Integra,and sends through it to the DAW via usb, or directly via the computer), and then insert the vst editor on a track, and then assign the keyboard signal to this track's input, AND ROUTE THE OUTPUT of this track back to the Integra, on a channel of your choice. You probably don't quite make this MIDI loop right, and once you'll get there you'll find the editor has a really ugly UI, but works perfectly fine.

Again, the vst editor is nothing else as an interface allowing you to operate the Integra from your DAW, and hence to run automations on the Integra in your Cubase projects.

May I ask you what part of this set up you don't understand or can't achieve? Are you familiar with the settings and preferences in Cubase to enable the MIDI I/Os and their routing?

lol wrote:

You'd be surprised, but none of the instruments I use have a vst instrument to play, and if it did I'd sell it right away. I bought and use the Integra because I don't want to make anything music related with a computer, unless the interface reads my mind, because I cannot work with a mouse and keep my hands in shape to play the piano. So only real instruments, old school sound modules, analog mixer with inserts and sends, hardware looper/sequencer.

I think most users here managed to connect the Integra and the editor and their DAW, so you have to route the midi signal back to the Integra, you have to set this in the inspector in Cubase in each track you assign to the Integra.

So from your keyboard you have to send the signal to the MIDI input in Cubase (this can be done using the Integra USB MIDI thru function, where your keyboard is connected via midi to the Integra,and sends through it to the DAW via usb, or directly via the computer), and then insert the vst editor on a track, and then assign the keyboard signal to this track's input, AND ROUTE THE OUTPUT of this track back to the Integra, on a channel of your choice. You probably don't quite make this MIDI loop right, and once you'll get there you'll find the editor has a really ugly UI, but works perfectly fine.

Again, the vst editor is nothing else as an interface allowing you to operate the Integra from your DAW, and hence to run automations on the Integra in your Cubase projects.

May I ask you what part of this set up you don't understand or can't achieve? Are you familiar with the settings and preferences in Cubase to enable the MIDI I/Os and their routing?

Hi,

Believe me I use Cubase for some time but fail with Integra-7.

I want to play a midi in Cubase with VST editor (without any midi keyboard). Can you help me with that ? If I can do that I will see later how can I connect a midi keyboard.


P.S. lol Can you tel me 2-3 example of instruments please? I'm really curious...


Best Regrads,

nicusorb wrote:

Can you tel me 2-3 example of instruments please? I'm really curious...

I think that what you don't understand is that the integra-7 VST in NOT an instrument and does NOT play anything. The integra-7 itself is THE INSTRUMENT.

This confusion is probably related with the fact that most VST are actual virtual instrument that you can play directly within cubase. This is NOT the case of the integra VST.

Why? Because it doesn't need it to be an instrument since you already have the hardware, the integra-7 "box" itself, and believe me it sound MUCH better than just about any VST instrument.

The integra-7 vst is then just an editor that you use to configure the integra-7 itself.

Why is it a VST? Probably because it's the new trend, acces virus does this as well as many other manufacturers. But in fact it does NOT need to be a VST. Some of us, including me, like to stay away from computers. For us we prefer to use the k-take editor.

The k-take editor does just about the same as the integra-7 vst. It is used the same way to configure the integra-7. BUT you could not play a song with the k_take editor, same as the integra-7 vst editor.

Then, HOW DO YOU PLAY THE INTEGRA-7 from within cubase:

Same way as you play any other HARDWARE (real) instrument. You create a midi track, connect the integra-7 (the physical box), put some notes on the midi track, set midi the correct way, and the hit "play" on cubase....

You don't need the integra-7 VST (or the k_take editor) anywhere for this!

But you need to know how to send midi from cubase to your instrument. And yes, this wil work with ANY modern instrument (physical) connected to your computer running cubase.

Please, forget about the integra-7 vst. It's obviously confusing you. YOU DON'T NEED IT. Just learn how to connect ANY instrument via midi to a computer. If you have a problem with midi over USB then just buy a midi to usb cable/converter. I personally use the Emu X-Midi 2x2 and it works fine under any version of windows (never tried OSX).

I've explained most of this before to you... right here: http://forums.rolandclan.com/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=49522#p282908

JeffB63, lol , Macska and me tried to help you... Now it's time for you to learn how midi works and how to use it from cubase. The benefit is that you will then be able to use cubase with just about any real physical instrument, not just the integra-7.

I don't want to be rude but I fell that you want the integra-7 vst to do something that you want because you don't understand how midi works with real hardware instrument. The integra-7 is NOT a virtual instrument, it is a real instrument. The integra-7 vst is NOT an instrument at all. Forget about all those vst you used before, none of this apply when you want to play ANY real instrument.

And before you ask... NO, the sound will NOT come from your computer. This is a REAL instrument that produce its own sounds. You may of course plug the outputs of the Integra to the computer or use audio over USB, if you want to hear it from a PC, but you don't need to. Just play a midi track from cubase, plug speakers or headphone to the integra-7 en enjoy!

Ohhh, yeah... an example or two you asked?

The fact is that MOST real (hardware) instrument DON'T have a VST. But my favorite one is the Minimoog Voyager.


LA

LA Keys wrote:

I think that what you don't understand is that the integra-7 VST in NOT an instrument and does NOT play anything. The integra-7 itself is THE INSTRUMENT.


LA

...and how can play at that "INSTRUMENT" ?


Unfortunately I understand but can not agree with you. Why ? I few think:

1. Integra is NOT a instrument. Why ? You can't play without other instrument. (What it is just a MIDI keyboard ?)

2. Unfortunately it is just marketing for people like me. They put ALL SRX/ARX into one piece (cheaper than if you buy them separately) and put a newer sound card.


my mistake....

Roland Site

The INTEGRA-7 Editor for Mac is a VSTi and AU plug-in editor that lets you easily control the INTEGRA-7 from within your Mac-based DAW, providing a great way to speed up your music production process. You can load all the INTEGRA-7’s internal sounds directly from the plug-in, and control parameters such as volume, pan, EQ, and more.
Tone Edit—a powerful feature first available in the INTEGRA-7 Editor iPad app—gives you the ability to edit both SuperNATURAL synth and SuperNATURAL acoustic tones from your favorite DAW. With the much-anticipated Total Recall feature, you can save and recall your INTEGRA-7 settings along with your DAW song files.

Indeed no word "RECORD"


3. What the difference between Integra-7 and Roland SoniCell ?

4. The SonicCell is an instrument ?


I think, not to say they are sure does not exist an musical instrument or module who have VST and work (don't work :)) like Integra VST

P.S.

LA Keys wrote:

The fact is that MOST real (hardware) instrument DON'T have a VST. But my favorite one is the Minimoog Voyager.
LA

:) You tell me about ANALOG instrument...so.... It is not an example, is a musical instrument that you like.


....and yet I really like integra7

....and yet I really like integra7

So already how do you manage to play it?

I think you should return the no-vst-no-intrument to the store while they would still take it back, and forget about it, that would be your best option, and also to buy a Yamaha MOXF6, which has a keyboard, a button play (and record), a complete vst integration, a pre-recorded music chops to cut/copy/paste. It's cheaper, and look it does the surface control trick as well, isn't life great after all?

Lol

lol wrote:

....and yet I really like integra7

So already how do you manage to play it?

I think you should return the no-vst-no-intrument to the store while they would still take it back, and forget about it, that would be your best option, and also to buy a Yamaha MOXF6, which has a keyboard, a button play (and record), a complete vst integration, a pre-recorded music chops to cut/copy/paste. It's cheaper, and look it does the surface control trick as well, isn't life great after all?

Lol

Hi,

Thank You for your suggestion but already have Yamaha XS8 with almost every sound bank from market (Indeed VST works as it should). Maybe you have another suggestion. :)


Regards,

I think we've fed this troll for long enough now.

Everyone here is using their Integra-7 fruitfully despite your perception that it is somehow fatally flawed.

If you can't be bothered learn how to use the technology and are convinced that we're all deliberately feeding you incorrect information then you can't be helped!

Hi

Sorry nicusorb that you are not able to get what you intended from the Integra. Perhaps you should return it and get VSTs instead or something else. I bought my Integra to be used as external module and not as VST as I don't have a good enough PC. I originally got the Bk7m thinking that I can use it as an external module but it was horrible at that.

So I traded it in and now am happy with the Integra. I control it from my other Keyboards

Regards

SP
http://www.youtube.com/synthesizerplayer