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Sequencing Rhythm Patterns

Sequencing Rhythm Patterns

24 Jul 2003, 17:34
Hey all,

Not a very deep question, more of a lazy one, as I just haven't experimented much on this topic myself:

There's a couple of the preset hip-hop rhythm patterns that I really like, particularly when played with the Pop or Jazz Rhythm groups. However, I tend to like to blast the patterns through a EQ/3-D Chorus effect, just to give them some body and depth.

My question is this, so far, I've been working this in patch mode, simply teeing up the efx I want and turning the rhythm pattern on by using the start/stop button in the arpeggio edit screen, and have been able to get excatly the rhythm sounds I want. This works great for live play.

However, what's the best way to record a track of a pre-set rhythm pattern in the sequencer? I haven't tried this yet, but can I just go into arpeggio like I have been, and hit start/stop as I've done in patch mode and track the pattern that way? Is there a better way?

Just looking for some ideas.

Cheers,
RW

Re: Sequencing Rhythm Patterns

29 Jul 2003, 18:10
Bump.

Doesn't anyone have any thoughts on this? I've been assigning a pattern and triggering it off of the pads to load it into the sequencer. For drum tracks that more or less repeat for the entire song (perhaps only with a break or fill here and there) is there a better way?

RW

Re: Sequencing Rhythm Patterns

29 Jul 2003, 18:42
Once you have the basic pattern recorded from triggering off the pads, it is a simple matter to use the track edit -> copy function to copy this for as many measures as you want. You can also erase specific measures and record different patterns in specific measures for breaks and fills etc. DOn't know if this answers your question.



Toom!
Toom! (Forum Member #120)

Re: Sequencing Rhythm Patterns

29 Jul 2003, 18:48
Thanks, Toom. That's probably the ticket for me, although sometimes just playing along on the pads is faster, if not as precise.

Cheers,
RW

16 Velocities for the pads

29 Jul 2003, 21:01
RW, we've been discussing this over in the thread regarding the MV-8000 in General Discussion.

It seems that the consensus is that the Fantom-S has a function that will allow the same drum or other sound to be assigned to all 16 pads and each pad would play and record at a precise and fixed MIDI velocity/level. If this is true, it would be a valuable feature that heretofore has only been available on the MPCs.

With this feature, you could record rhythm patterns with precise dynamics, rather than having to attempt to play the pads or keys at the same velocities throughout the duration of your rhythm patterns, or have to go back after the fact and edit the velocities to achieve this consistency.

Let me know if you've found this feature and if it will help you achieve your objective.

Re: Sequencing Rhythm Patterns

29 Jul 2003, 21:21
Hey 2TIM316,

Thanks much for the info. I was actually aware of the multi-level setting for the pads, and have used it on more than one occasion. It is useful sometimes. However, that won't particularly help in my "live" play scenario referred to in my response to toom, since what I'd be doing is to have (for example) my main drum loop on pad 1, a four-measure fill pattern on pad 2, break 1 on pad 3, break 2 on pad 4, etc. Thus, (at least sometimes), playing on the fly results in a slightly mis-hit pad. The way I've gotten around that is to simply have the pads set at specific levels, rather than "real" settings (which works okay).

My original quesiton related more to the preset rhythm patterns in the Fantom-S. In patch mode, you can play those simply using a "start/stop" function button. But, since I like to send the loops through the efx first, I was curious if there were any neat tricks to recording the preset patterns into a sequencer track apart from simply triggering them through the pads. I suppose (answering my own question), I could probably resample the pattern with the efx on it as I want and then assign the resampled loop to a pad or two (perhaps at differing levels).

Anyway...thanks for the assist!

Cheers,
RW

patterns on pads in patch mode

6 Mar 2004, 05:02
hello! I created a beat in the sequencer and then copied it to a pattern and then using RPS assigned the pattern to the PADS ... it sounded great. I need to assign the same pattern to the pads in the PATCH mode so that I can play the beat during a live performance with the touch of the PAD. and switch patches and play diff sounds while the beat stays the same. how???

Thanks!

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