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In the Jim Stout Archive for the V-Synth page,
The BTNAMM proyect not working in the V-Synth 2.0/XT, because in the "Wave folder" the tones must be in .vpw format for the V-Synth 2.0/XT and not in .w00 format.
please correct it !!!

Thnak you very much.

Murdock wrote:
The BTNAMM proyect not working in the V-Synth 2.0/XT, because in the "Wave folder" the tones must be in .vpw format for the V-Synth 2.0/XT and not in .w00 format.

I don't think that is entirely correct Rodrigo. I was able to load all of the libraries with the exception of "Tommy" onto my XT and they are all .w00 files except for the aforementioned Tommy which has the .vpw suffix, and that is the one we had the most problems with!

BTNAMM is kind of a strange one because there are 348 waves listed for only 30 patches and there are some duplicates in there like Submarine, BTdopeness, Earthquakes and others that are included in some of the other sets.

Just focus for now on some of the other fine sets that Mr. cello has provided and we'll see if we can figure out the vpw versus w00 conundrum. I just checked and saw that the converted Tommy project that is working has the w00 format.

Hello Mr. SoundworldA.D.

In my V-Synth I could not load the BTNAMM project, I get the error unknown...
The other projects if loaded on my V-Synth, the sounds are very cool.

Thank you very much.

Great! I don't think we are missing too much without BTNAMM anyway. There are soooo many great patches in those other bigger collections.

Jam on!

Apologies Murdock - I've removed the link until we can get the issue sorted.

As I don't have an XT myself, it is not possible for me to test the sounds; but will be pleased to receive comments/advice from those who can test them!

As SoundworldA.D. says, BTNAMM is not worth worrying about too much; the others, however... ;)

Hello Mr. Cello.

I like to load new sounds to my V-Synth, I'm a fan of new and unusual sounds. I hope they can fix the new projects soon.

Thank you very much.

I did some editing on the "Tommy" collection and tried loading it into my XT but still getting an "Unknown Error".

Blast! I'll keep working on it since cello was able to get it to load on the GT you would assume that it would work on the XT as well since these were single tone patches and probably originated on the V-Synth or XT in the first place.

Getting close kids! I finally got "Tommy" to load on my XT but that was with only 250 waves (or "tones") in the folder and a lot of the patches either have no tones or have wrong DLP or PRC tones assigned which renders them pretty much useless. I went through the patches one by one and noticed that some of the patches have 3 or 4 tones assigned instead of two which won't work on the XT.

I am going through and culling out the offenders and will be releasing the XT version of Tommy soon as I can get it to work properly and have assigned the proper tones and waves to all of the patches. It will no doubt be a little different than the GT version but rest assured that there are some very useful patches, some of which aren't available in other project sets.

Stay tuned!

SoundworldA.D. wrote:

I am going through and culling out the offenders and will be releasing the XT version of Tommy soon as I can get it to work properly and have assigned the proper tones and waves to all of the patches. It will no doubt be a little different than the GT version but rest assured that there are some very useful patches, some of which aren't available in other project sets.

Not sure if it will help in this case, but remember the version 2.0 op system has a CLEAN PROJECT utility which may cut out the offenders automatically. Maybe it will work?

Also, I will ask my question here instead of creating a new thread: can a folder hierarchy be made on a PC card? My XT doesn't seem to like folders other than the .PRJ folders themselves.

For example, I want to create the following: CARD:\JSTOUTARC\... (where the dots would be each soundset .PRJ folder).

This doesn't seem to work if the folder is created on the PC card in Windows; any folder made is invisible to the V-Synth. And I don't think the Librarian program has a "new folder" option.

Can this be done? It's just an effort to organize things a little better in a cluttered world. Thanks!

Thank you again for so much effort, really great sounds!

You're most welcome double-0-Seven! Cello and I are most pleased if anyone gets satisfaction from these great collections provided by the legendary Mr. Stout!

Not sure if it will help in this case, but remember the version 2.0 op system has a CLEAN PROJECT utility which may cut out the offenders automatically. Maybe it will work?

The "offenders" in this case were original Internal 1.51 waves and the V2 could not process a lot of them so we would get an error. Anyway there's a funny story regarding this one Two Forty Three! When I had imported all of the necessary waves over from the 1.51ver2 project and assigned them to the Tommy project in the editor, I then had to go and load that into my XT. Problem was that none of the patches then had associated waves! I had to go through all 510 patches and re-assign the proper tones/waves.

Once that was done, I thought "hey, there's a lot of uneccessary tones/waves in here...I'll do a CLEAN PROJECT and get rid of them". Bollocks! To my chagrin, I found that a whole lot of the patches did not sound right anymore. Apparently, the assigned tones/waves were associated by their slot number BEFORE i did the Clean! Fortunately I was just able to reload the original and re-do everything WITHOUT doing a Clean Project.

Also, I will ask my question here instead of creating a new thread: can a folder hierarchy be made on a PC card? My XT doesn't seem to like folders other than the .PRJ folders themselves.

For example, I want to create the following: CARD:\JSTOUTARC\... (where the dots would be each soundset .PRJ folder).

This doesn't seem to work if the folder is created on the PC card in Windows; any folder made is invisible to the V-Synth. And I don't think the Librarian program has a "new folder" option.

Can this be done? It's just an effort to organize things a little better in a cluttered world. Thanks!

Whew! That sounds like one for the Paulo-meister! I am kind of a newbie to the editor librarian world!

SoundworldA.D. wrote:

Also, I will ask my question here instead of creating a new thread: can a folder hierarchy be made on a PC card? My XT doesn't seem to like folders other than the .PRJ folders themselves.

For example, I want to create the following: CARD:\JSTOUTARC\... (where the dots would be each soundset .PRJ folder).

This doesn't seem to work if the folder is created on the PC card in Windows; any folder made is invisible to the V-Synth. And I don't think the Librarian program has a "new folder" option.

Can this be done? It's just an effort to organize things a little better in a cluttered world. Thanks!

Whew! That sounds like one for the Paulo-meister! I am kind of a newbie to the editor librarian world!

Well... There are a couple of things we could do in order to help here. I'm answering from my iPhone now, so I'll explain it better as soon as I get home this evening.

The Librarian is indeed a very powerful app, but it can't create folders in that sense ;-)
Talk later

PauloF wrote:

SoundworldA.D. wrote:

Also, I will ask my question here instead of creating a new thread: can a folder hierarchy be made on a PC card? My XT doesn't seem to like folders other than the .PRJ folders themselves.

For example, I want to create the following: CARD:\JSTOUTARC\... (where the dots would be each soundset .PRJ folder).

This doesn't seem to work if the folder is created on the PC card in Windows; any folder made is invisible to the V-Synth. And I don't think the Librarian program has a "new folder" option.

Can this be done? It's just an effort to organize things a little better in a cluttered world. Thanks!

Whew! That sounds like one for the Paulo-meister! I am kind of a newbie to the editor librarian world!

Well... There are a couple of things we could do in order to help here. I'm answering from my iPhone now, so I'll explain it better as soon as I get home this evening.

The Librarian is indeed a very powerful app, but it can't create folders in that sense ;-)
Talk later

Ok, there are two ways to do what you want, one easier than the other, but none of them using the Librarian to manage the files, as the Librarian only manages the Patches the Waves and their respective relationship.

Both ways use the principle that you can create Directories, like the one you described " CARD:\JSTOUTARC\... (where the dots would be each soundset .PRJ folder", but the V-Synth does not read them even if they contain valid PRJ files, as it only reads and loads Projects from the CARD's root, so we need to use a different approach.

A- Preparation ( loading all relevant "Expansion" Folders and projects on the Card)
1- Go to MODE, USB and choose CARD. The CARD folder will appear as a Folder Drive on your computer
2- on the root, create all the subdirectories you want and copy all relevant Projects to that directory, like \JSTOUTARC\project1.prj... Etc
3- repeat step 2 for any other folders/projects that you might have
4- release the card from the computer

B- Using the "Expansion" Folder's projects

Option1 - Using the computer
1- Go to MODE, USB and choose CARD. The CARD folder will appear as a Folder Drive on your computer
2- copy all relevant Projects from the directory you want to use to the root of the Card, like: Copy [CARD Drive]\JSTOUTARC\ProjectYouWant.prj to [CARD Drive]:\ProjectYouWant.prj
3- repeat step 2 for any other folders/projects that you might want to made available to be loaded
4- release the card from the computer

Option2- Using the V-Synth Disk Utilities
1- Go to MODE, DISK, TOOLS. This menu will allow you to Copy, Move, Delete and Rename Files and Folders
2- Choose CARD as a source and Press the option COPY on the left menu (if was not already selected)
4- cursor to the Folder you want to load the project from and press OPEN. The projects inside that folder will be shown
5- cursor to the desired project and press Mark, an Asterisk will be shown on the left of the marked file
6- press close to return to the Card root and press Enter again to copy. The file would be copied to the root folder and would be ready to be loaded. note: if a file with the same name exists in the Card root, an overwrite message will be shown, press Execute to overwrite or Cancel to cancel the overwrite operation.
7- press Cancel or EXIT to return to the Disk Utility Menu

I hope this helps
Cheers
Paulo

Great post PauloF! Many thanks - I'm sure your information will be useful for many here :) (including me!)

PS hopefully will get the revised Tommy for XT uploaded this week...

I think the "new" XT Tommy will need to be converted also for the GT to replace the original GT version that I concocted before I knew about the correct tones. And I have a perfect name for the concocted one..."Frankenstein!"

Because that's basically what it was...a lot of the patches were "patched" together with tones and/or waves that I had to just guess at. There are still some good patches, but I think the original Tommy with the intended tones and waves is just a better get!