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Irig Midi with Roland Fantom X6

Irig Midi with Roland Fantom X6

27 Dec 2011, 20:57
I just got the irig midi and hooked it up to my iPhone 4s and my Roland fantom x6. The midi in into the phone works great but the midi out is not recognized by my fantom. It is however recognized when plugged into my mpc 1000. Anybody else connecting the irig to a roland fantom having any problems? The irig is def working fine because my other interfaces are reacting to it and both the in and out lights light up but just the fantom is not accepting the midi in from the irigs out? Thanks

Re: Irig Midi with Roland Fantom X6

2 Jan 2012, 21:54
I tried the exact same thing. I am using an iPad2 and tried connecting the iRig to Fantom X6 and NOTHING. I see lights blink on the iRig, but nothing comes out ot the Fantom. I have no problem controlling the iPad from the Fantom, but I can not control the Fantom from the iPad.

Very frustraing!
THC

Re: Irig Midi with Roland Fantom X6

4 Jan 2012, 02:57
Hmm does not sound well - just bought the iRig Midi for exctly the same purpose but did not yet managed to use it with my Fantom X7. Will test it next week with the X7 as well as with a JV2080 and a Yamaha MO6, results will be posted asap.

Re: Irig Midi with Roland Fantom X6

4 Jan 2012, 14:12
It is definitely an issue with the Roland Fantom itself as I've gotten the irig to work midi in and out with other keyboards. It just doesn't work in terms of the Roland receiving the midi in from the irig midi out. It def is frustrating. I've tried calling Roland tech support but the representative who answered had no idea what irig midi was and had no experience with ios midi/audio. I've contacted ik multimedia as well through email and am waiting for a response. The work around I have for it since the midi out works with other hardware other then the Roland fantom is plugging the midi out of the irig into an mpc or other midi interface if you have one and them plugging the midi out/through of that device into the Roland. Than it works. This is not the solution I am looking for though. I'm glad to hear i wasnt the only one with this problem.

Re: Irig Midi with Roland Fantom X6

19 Mar 2012, 13:51
Are there any updates on the matter? I have the same problems with iRig and my Fantom XR.

Does anyone know if the Line6 Mobilizer works?

Re: Irig Midi with Roland Fantom X6

20 Mar 2012, 05:30
verbalee wrote:
It is definitely an issue with the Roland Fantom itself as I've gotten the irig to work midi in and out with other keyboards.
The first part is nonsense because the second part doesn't mean a thing. I and many thousands of others have hooked up our Fantoms to a multitude of MIDI devices and it just works. If this is not simply user error (ie. a configuration issue on the Roland) I would tend to suspect the iRig rather than the Roland.

I wonder if you have the Roland configured to do MIDI over USB, will it perhaps disable the physical MIDI input (since otherwise it would have to merge the two MIDI input sources) but perhaps still transmit on the MIDI output? Try setting the Fantom to USB Storage mode.
plugging the midi out of the irig into an mpc or other midi interface if you have one and them plugging the midi out/through of that device into the Roland
There's a big difference between connecting the Roland to a midi OUT of a device that has no separate THRU port versus connecting it to a device with a dedicated THRU. A normal THRU port is just some very simple analog electronics that provides a 1:1 duplicate of whatever comes into the IN port, including any timing inaccuracies.

A MIDI OUT that does double duty as a THRU port usually goes through the device's processor and what comes out of the MIDI OUT is a re-constructed MIDI data stream with the timing goverened by the device that is re-transmitting the data.

If there is some issue (eg timing, levels) with the MIDI data coming from the iRig it's possible that the MPC's MIDI input has greater tolerance for that than the Roland. If it knows how to interpret the iRig signal (even if it's ut of spec) it can then re-transmit it with proper timing, levels etc.and the Roland would be able to use this signal.

A dedicated THRU port on the other hand would only correct level issues but not timing issues. A THRU port might still help if iRig is using a non-standard 3.3V MIDI interface rather than the 5V as per the MIDI specs but I can't imagine they'd do something like that.
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Re: Irig Midi with Roland Fantom X6

6 May 2012, 22:41
I had the same problem with my Juno. I found the solution was to connect an external power supply to the iRig MIDI through the micro USB port. This gave it enough voltage to drive the MIDI, so I suspect that the iRig must run at 3.3v unless connected to a 5v source.

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