Using G as a slave board.

2 Apr 2011, 05:12

My main keyboard is a Kurzweil PC3, which is the perfect performance controller. I just picked up a G -mostly for the controllable LFO & to give me a light weight board to take to practices. I want to be able to select 3 or 4 patches from the external keyboard on individual MIDI channels & control them from the external keyboard.

What is the best way to accomplish this?

Re: Using G as a slave board.

2 Apr 2011, 18:40

use performance mode and there you have 16 patches on 16 midi channels... it's better to use matrix control instead of system control 'cause system control is global to performanse and is availiable on one cannel, while matrix control can control different parameters on different channels....

Re: Using G as a slave board.

3 Apr 2011, 05:46

OK...so I go to performance mode and set MIDI chs 4, 5, & 6 to receive...I suppose I can send bank/patch change & 'play' patches from my external keyboard...but now I've no sound when I play the Juno direct.

Also...I can't find how to set matrix mode.

Re: Using G as a slave board.

3 Apr 2011, 08:07

no sound??!!! strange... by default in performanse mode you have 16 patches on 16 midi channels... matrix control, not matrix mode.... check p.44 in manual.... the difference between matrix control and system control is that matrix is patch specific, while systm control is performance specific.... system control is better suited for controlling mfx parameters from my POV

Re: Using G as a slave board.

3 Apr 2011, 11:16

I just figured I turned off MIDI receive on ch 1 & the local keyboard is sending on ch 1. I want the local keyboard to play whatever patches that have been selected by the external keyboard...using the Juno kind of like a sound module that I can play directly every once in awhile.

Re: Using G as a slave board.

3 Apr 2011, 11:23

"I want the local keyboard to play whatever patches that have been selected by the external keyboard"

how you select patches from ext. keyboard? read the manual once more... it's all there.... you can turn remote keyboard switch on and play patch, selected on Juo with your keyboard.... or you can switch patches with PC messages

Re: Using G as a slave board.

3 Apr 2011, 14:53

I didn't see anything in the manual about operating in slave mode....looked at p. 44 & still don't know if matrix is a mode I have to turn on...will I want to be in patch mode or performance mode on the Juno?

Re: Using G as a slave board.

3 Apr 2011, 16:47

I'm sending ctrl 32/0 and the only bank I can set from my Kurzweil is GM.

Re: Using G as a slave board.

3 Apr 2011, 17:07

wellaaa... there's no matrix mode... there's matrix control, by whith you can assign midi CC#s to different parameters...

if you wanna have one patch at a time, use patch mode, if you wanna have 16 patches at 16 midi channels at one time, use performance.... and i can't understand what do you call "slave mode" ? in my understanding, slave mode is when song recorder's transport and tempo is controlled by external device....

Re: Using G as a slave board.

3 Apr 2011, 20:33

What I mean is I press keys on an external keyboard and sounds play on the Juno...I'm making progress BUT all I can set are GM patches...

Re: Using G as a slave board.

4 Apr 2011, 05:19

there's no special settings needed to play juno's sounds via external keyboard.... as for selecting patches, i looked at the manual and on page 240 there's a table called "bank select and program change correspondance chart" ... it is strange that you didn't found it... i never used PC messages on juno, so i can't tell for sure, but it should work if it's described in manual... of cource, recieve prog. change and recieve bank select should be set to on in system settings.... hope this'll solve your problem )

Re: Using G as a slave board.

4 Apr 2011, 06:37

D'OH....I was skimming the manual on my ipad and didn't see the Bank Select info....I saw the Arabian Scale bullet and skipped the rest of the page.....

That should work...I think I have to do some math to send bank changes:
87*128+0 = User Bank 1
87*128+1 = User Bank 2, etc.
(I used to have a motif rack which required a similar conversion.)

I'm at work but I'll try it when I get home.

What I want the Juno to do is respond only to MIDI channels 4, 5, & 6 from an external source. I'll send bank/program changes & key press & volume & Sustain from the controller keyboard. (So far I've been using the performance mode on the Juno.) I'll be playing 90% of the sounds from the external keyboard controller. Every once in a while I'd like to be able to reach up and play a lead part on the Juno (since my controller has weighted keys). I just have to figure out how to tell the Juno to play MIDI channels 4,5,& 6 when the local keys are pressed.

I think I'm getting closer....THANKS!

Re: Using G as a slave board.

4 Apr 2011, 07:38

i'm glad that you figured it... and Juno keys play part that is selected via part select buttons ( large buttons under the screen )

Re: Using G as a slave board.

4 Apr 2011, 19:03

So I go into perform mode on the Juno and then hit the MIDI button. I turn off Rx for every channel except 4,5,& 6 and leave everything else checked. That seems to let me send patch plus key change data to the Juno. So far, so good. I was using perform 1 & I hit write to save. I also changed the general menu to select Perform on startup. Does it sound like I missed anything?

As of now I can control the Juno from my controller. The last thing I want to do is play the Juno direct. The way I have it set up, I get no sound when I play the Juno keys. What am I missing?

Thanks again for all your help.

Re: Using G as a slave board.

5 Apr 2011, 04:17

hey, Lizard King! looks like you're blowing your own mind... there's NO special settings needed to play either external or internal keyboard on Juno-G... on external keyboard you have to set up midi channel and with internal keys just select desired part with part select buttons... that's it !!!