Fantom-G

Question about keyboard split

Log in Register
Advanced
Log in to reply

Question about keyboard split

17 Aug 2010, 18:36
When playing split keyboard is possible to make one part shift octave up or down while another part remains in different range?
For example if I have organ on left of C4 and piano on right side. Can I make organ play in the same octave range as keyboard?
I want to play different instrument (split) that are in same range, but don't want them to be layered...

Re: Question about keyboard split

18 Aug 2010, 12:12
Go to live mode -> part view (F3) -> Level/Pan due to select you patches -> keyboard to determine a range (lower, upper) -> Pitch to determine an octave, transpose etc ;))

You may play layer and split in the same time when patches will be partly layered.
http://www.youtube.com/user/tixus23

Re: Question about keyboard split

18 Aug 2010, 13:32
@ Bratan

Remember the G does not have the concept of a split keyboard... in live mode you can have 8 layers, with each layer covering any range of keys within the keyboard, eg. stopping at c4, overlapping or even with empty gaps..

to make the equivalent of a *split* keyboard you would have two active layers, one layer per patch.. layer one ending (high note) at B4 and the other layer starting (low note) at c4

Re: Question about keyboard split

18 Aug 2010, 13:43
Mystic38:
Remember the G does not have the concept of a split keyboard... in live mode you can have 8 layers, with each layer covering any range of keys within the keyboard, eg. stopping at c4, overlapping or even with empty gaps..


According to what you say, the Fantom-G does have the concept of a split keyboard. A split keyboard is not one that can only have two split areas, but a keyboard that is able to split its keyboard, regardless of the split zones. The Fantom-G can have as many as 18 split areas on the keyboard in Live mode (8 internal + 2 ARX + 8 external parts), and 8 more in Studio mode (8 internal parts adding to that). Of course there can be layers at the same time, giving a complex and elaborate split+layer combination for each Live or Studio set.

Re: Question about keyboard split

19 Aug 2010, 02:51
@cyclops,

FYI I was trying to help the OP understand that his functional requirement of playing two sounds is done in a different manner than pushing a *split* button and *upper* and *lower*...it is done by using layers as you well know.

I acknowledge the redress and will in future provide overly complex but technically correct degrees of exactitude that dont help at any practical level...lol

Re: Question about keyboard split

19 Aug 2010, 04:37
Actually you can have 24 layers/splits in Live mode!
- 8 internal
- 16 external

For the internal parts you can choose between many things: factory patches/user patches/ drum kits/ samples/ arx patches

Re: Question about keyboard split

19 Aug 2010, 09:43
If we are going for numbers here, then the 'G' is capable of 4 separate keyboard ranges within the patch structure itself, using 4 stereo waveforms. Get out your calculators! =D

Cheers!
PiaKnowGuy
Please feel free to listen to Pirates
Image
PiaKnow
PiaKnowGuy
Please feel free to listen to Pirates
[img]http://www.piaknow.com/1goldpiaknowlogonew-thumbnail-thumbnail.jpg[/img]
PiaKnow

Re: Question about keyboard split

19 Aug 2010, 14:03
@piaknowguy..

...if only we could pitch shift on a per channel (L/R) basis within a stereo waveform!..

(brain explodes) ..lol.. and the poor soul just wanted an organ and a piano!..

Re: Question about keyboard split

19 Aug 2010, 14:13
Myscit38: A pair of waveforms in a stereo tone is treated as one sound source. The only things you can choose separately are the waveforms. Everything else is common.

Maybe some people would like Motif XS's design best, where there are 8 elements (the equivalent for Roland's Tones) that can be edited separately.
The result is maybe more flexible, but the Motif can't really stack more that 4 of these sounds in Performance Mode (the closest equivalent to Fantom-G's Live mode). If you count merely the number of waves played simultaneously, the Fantom-G can play up to 4 (tones) x 2 (waves per tone) x 8 (parts per Live set) = 64 waves/sounds at once. And this in Live mode. In Studio mode that number is doubled (up to 128 waves).

Re: Question about keyboard split

19 Aug 2010, 17:15
@ cyclops

why do you say you can only layer 4 of those patches? unless you are referring to a limit due to polyphony, then I think you can layer more than 4....

at least on the rack I think you can layer/split up to 16 patches... (via the multi mode)
Can You Touch The Apex

Re: Question about keyboard split

19 Aug 2010, 17:34
apex: I tought that Yamaha dedicated Preformance Mode for PERFORMANCE. I thought that Multi mode was for songwriting. Maybe I'm wrong, but this doesn't justify insisting still to stick to 4 parts for the Performance mode . ;-)

Re: Question about keyboard split

25 Aug 2010, 13:23
@ cyclops
my comment on stereo was very tongue in cheek...(hence the *brain explodes*) we were ratcheting up the technical details for an op that simply wanted a piano + organ.....

your comments on motif xs are correct, I have recently spent a few hours playing with one and the performance mode as you say is only 4 parts...

Re: Question about keyboard split

25 Aug 2010, 13:28
I'm not sure what performance mode is. (I don't have it on my rack). I just have voice mode and multi mode.

when you say "songwriting" for multi mode, what exactly do you mean... and also also what do you mean by PERFORMANCE for performance mode?
Can You Touch The Apex

← Back to Fantom-G