Favorite / Song call - causing patch changes?? - Fantom-G

Favorite / Song call - causing patch changes??

3 May 2010, 21:17

Q1
I've just started using the Favorite mode. I can call a Song with the Favorite no problems, but when I do that all my patches in the corresponding Live Set become marked as changed (v). Is this normal? Can I avoid it?

It doesn't seem to happen when I don't call a Song with the Live Set as part of the Favorite setting. I'm only using one phrase in the song (for a click) and it only contains note data (I've double checked) so I can't figure out what would be causing all the patches to be marked as changed.

Q2
Also, is it possible to automatically start the song when it's called from the Favorite so I don't have to press "Play" manually? (sysex at the start of a phrase in the song maybe?)

Thanks!

Re: Favorite / Song call - causing patch changes??

4 May 2010, 06:53

Q1
When you save a Song you also save the sound data you used to make the Song. This way when you call a SOng you imediately get the sound for playing it and you do not need to select Live or Studio Settings. You can't "avoid" and you surely don't "need" to avoid it. You just need to save the Song with the Live Setting you want to use.

Q2
No, this is not possible. Even if you wanted to add a sysex message for that you still would need to start the phrase to trigger it thus you would need to press Play.

Re: Favorite / Song call - causing patch changes??

5 May 2010, 01:22

Thanks for the response and explanation V-CeeOh,

So just to clarify, even if I've used an existing Live Set to create a new Song, save the Song and leave the Live Set untouched and then call it from Favorite all the patches in the Live Set will be marked as changed, right?

It seems to me that if a song called the sounds from the same Live Set that created it, nothing would need to be marked as changed, and I think that's what was confusing me. But if that's simply the way of things I can cope

Re: Favorite / Song call - causing patch changes??

5 May 2010, 07:14

Hi bonython
When you call a song the sound data is dumped so, even if you have previously called the Live set you used for the song, the sound data is in fact "replaced" by an identical one. To avoid this it would be necessary for the G to compare both data in order to decide to replace it or not. This just would take time and resources and is completely unnecessary. So the data is just replaced regardless of what was there before. So, yes, it's just the way of things

Re: Favorite / Song call - causing patch changes??

5 May 2010, 23:51

Aha! The light has come on and my soul now rests easy

Thanks again!