Possible Workaround for fixing Part Effects in Song - Fantom-G

Re: Possible Workaround for fixing Part Effects in Song

1 Nov 2008, 04:07

Speaking of the input effects... I created a very nice input 'patch' last night. I took me a good 30 minutes to get it perfect. I was going guitar in > Compressor > MFX Guitar Amp Simulator (dialed in a perfect tone here by carefully tweaking all parameters) > Reverb, got a real nice room going on by carefully tweaking it. Very nice.

But I couldn't save it for later recall.

Next up was recording vocals, so I had to destroy the 30minute work I had just done by writing down the parameters on paper, which took about 20 minutes..

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because it's used for the input.

1 Nov 2008, 06:44

Incorrect..

The G actualy has 3 Mfx
2 for routing internaly and 1 for input, which would allow for Live switching..
1 for the current patch and 2 for the next live while patch remain is on 1.

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Re: Possible Workaround for fixing Part Effects in Song

1 Nov 2008, 07:02

The input FX does not have the same features as the MFXs.

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Re: Possible Workaround for fixing Part Effects in Song

1 Nov 2008, 07:43

yes, but one mfx is definitely required in Live mode, no matter how...

Re: Possible Workaround for fixing Part Effects in Song

1 Nov 2008, 09:08

Jimknopf:
"because it's used for the input.
Incorrect.."

What I said is correct. One thing is the input FX (6 algorithms), another thing though is the MFX1 (78 algorithms) that is available in Single and Live mode. The former is used for processing the recorded sound in sampling mode, the latter is used for realtime processing of the chosen input (stereo, mono analog inputs, digital inputs or usb audio return) or audio tracks.

Re: Possible Workaround for fixing Part Effects in Song

1 Nov 2008, 11:16

You probably adressed Quinnx?

I don't say it works with the present G layout.
I just say Live mode needs one MFX besides PFX and Reverb/Chorus from my view. In some not so rare cases (Leslie/overdrive etc.) the present setup doesn't do the job required.

If that means one more global MFX in the G OS, it simply would be good to implement it, as long as enough headroom (including processing power) is available. If not, more effect combinations (like a lesie with overdrive implemented) would work. The Leslie effects need reworking anyway. The present two should be replaced by one better working, including overdrive.

Re: Possible Workaround for fixing Part Effects in Song

1 Nov 2008, 12:13

... these issues reaffirm that Fantom-G's effects routing is flawed. The effects routings need urgent attention by Roland.

jessej.. if you have an exteral data recorder, you can record the sysex while you edit the input effects.....

Also, if your Fantom-G is connected to the computer already, and if the editor software allows to edit the input effects and settings, you could capture the sysex to a sequencer, and save that as presets.......

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Solution to Copying PFX,MFX and more....

1 Nov 2008, 18:28

You can copy and paste practically ALL useful settings between patches,
and create and store presets by using the FANTOM G EDITOR

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Re: Possible Workaround for fixing Part Effects in Song

1 Nov 2008, 19:03

shakil, thanks for the tips, but the thing is.. I got the Fantom G so I can stay away from computers when I'm writing (aka workstation)...

I want Roland to make it all good.

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Re: Possible Workaround for fixing Part Effects in Song

2 Nov 2008, 21:09

Jimknopf:

Anyway, at least two points are a *common* wish in this board, and we should take both as common adress to Roland:
- it just has to be possible to move live sounds including effect settings to studio mode
- it just is a neccessary part of workflow to save and load effect settings.

Agreed 100%, Jim.

Re: Possible Workaround for fixing Part Effects in Song

24 Nov 2009, 17:28

Excuse me if the answer on my question is already given but I am really not in the luxury to have the time to read it all through.

Is it still NOT possible to create your own studio sets with your own effect routings saved with it when saving the studio set?

Cheers,
ens