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Re: My is here

20 Jul 2009, 09:26
Ok, I see the same thing. but Tewatbook.prj is a folder. I open it and there is no .prj file. There just more folders with waves and some other stuff I can not open. So should I copy the folder with the name Tweakbook.prj to USB stick?

Same with V-Synth 2.0 link- there is .prj folder, not the file. Is this what I put on USB stick?

Thanks.

Re: My is here

20 Jul 2009, 09:31
HI Astralv,
yes you just copy the .prj Folder sonto your USB Stick and Load the Project on your GT. roladn call them Project but you could also Say the prj Files are the Soundbanks of the GT.

Re: My is here

20 Jul 2009, 09:48
Right- thanks. It just that I also have Fantom G and I used to see .prj file, not folder. In Fantom the .prj file is hiding inside same name folder and I would have to copy just that file because Fantom is not able to open any folders- everything has to be in main direction- no folders. So in case of V-Synth- it would open folder and load it? (Sorry if I ask same thing- just making sure). Thanks.

Re: My is here

20 Jul 2009, 16:54
I don't know about the GT ... but I love the presets on V2.0 of V-Synth as well as the more esoteric v1 soundset ...

Is the GT soundset radically different ... I wouldn't think it would be ... just that you can properly layer and split now ...

I can't wait for the day I get my hands on a GT ...
Some tunes and whatnot ...

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_music.cfm?bandID=405125



some tunes and whatnot ...
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=405125

Re: My is here

20 Jul 2009, 19:44
Me too !!!
Make Music and be Happy !!
PauloF

Re: My is here

21 Jul 2009, 00:20
We came to conclusion that... if you are on a budget and $2800 is a serious ivestment, the V-Synth may not be your first choice. I mean- it sounds very good. It is warm and pleasent, and those 300 sounds are very useful, but again- IF you not already have them. For me there was nothing that I would say, "Wow! Hell, yeah!" Some choirs/vocoders I could use, but Motif offers about as good vocoder and they have 3rd party vocoder library making it 2nd to none. The Pads about as good on Fantom. Again- synth/electronica sounds great on Motif if you buy expansion libraries. Yes, it is programable, but so as Roland JP 8000 you can buy for $400-600. I am yet to load the Tweakbook sounds and bank from original V-Synth. Was wondering- how do I undo it? Would I have to save the GT version 2 as a project, or will I have to do system restore again?

Re: My is here

21 Jul 2009, 01:57
Astralv, I absolutely do not agree with your opinion. No instrument in the world has what the V-Synth has. Namely the VariPhrase synthesis which, when used on samples, gives a new world of sound possibilities. And there are many patches out there that create amazing new rhythm textures, noises, pads, bells, etc. out of sampled materials that sound totally different.

As of loading sounds, just get a USB flash drive and you can store multiple projects there, just like with Fantom-G.

Re: My is here

21 Jul 2009, 09:13
I am not used to load samples and sample anything I don't have to. There is no time for that. I got to tell you- I work about 5-6 hours a day just to support my gear- the flush drimes, the OS updates, the Windows troubleshooting- now days being keyboard player is not even close about playing instrument- its a lot about supporting it. I did not get to read about veryphrase yet. Been working with vocal designer last night. The choirs programs are great, and that's what I was after, but again- to me- it sounds like a good vocoder- not in no way like choir. I recorded a track, and- sounds exactly as the other one I recorded on Motif. So- lets call it what it is: a vocoder. Any way. So you saying I should put a folder on a USB drive? This is odd, because I thought those famous artist's sound sets were a .prj file, not a folder. Artemiy, do you still own GT?

Re: My is here

21 Jul 2009, 10:06
I think all of your initial complaints and frustration come from trying to do too many things and too quickly.

- Projects are not files, they are folders. So when we say you need to copy a project somewhere, you do it by dragging folders which have .prj in their names. To load new sounds, you copy the projects onto a USB drive and load them from the project menu.

- I'd really recommend you to check out the various phrase and beat loop patches, and use the trip pad and time knobs to see what VariPhrase can do.

- Vocal designer is a vocoder inside, technically, but for the choirs it also uses VariPhrase instead of traditional sampled sounds, which gives you some extra control over the sound and expression.

Re: My is here

21 Jul 2009, 10:28
I will have to agree with Diametro this time and say, you aren't ready for the V-synth.
If you want a fast preset solution, you should have invested in yet another ROMpler, not a complex synth.
And, if you still don't see the point, you might aswell sell the V-Synth.

I own a Motif and apart from it's excellent sampled instruments, it is nowhere as flexible as the V.

The V-synth is all about modulation. Again, it is NOT a preset machine.

Re: My is here

21 Jul 2009, 12:19
Ready or not- I would agree- I don't have time to pay detailed attention to all the options V-Synth has hidden in it. I'll get it- it's onl;y few days. I go by experience- so far I understand most of what it does. Now- check this out: I had the V-synth on, and I went to pick up my child. He is 5 years old. So when we got home I got busy and he was on a board. So 5 minutes later he calls me, saying, "Mama, listen what sound I made!" So I pick up the headphones and it's pretty good. He went streight in to Pro Edit mode and built something with multystep modulator, and it actually sounded pretty good. Funny that I did not see the modulator- what in a world is it? Gotta tell ya- this new generation of kids will eventually push old school players out of the market with their noize-oriented music. Not to offend anybody, but we actually trying to play instrument- the keys. I worry about excersice for my hands, chords progressions, writing/typing/printing charts for the band, leads, arrangements, drummers, guitarists, and so on. We are 5 piece band, on top of keyboards, I am a singer and have to write lyrics and record vocals, so- its a lot of work. On top of that we just bought M-Audio Xponent with Torq DJ software and trying to practice mixing with it, transfering my DJ set on to lap top, I by the way also have to support and troubleshoot- its a live gig machine. I was posting on M-Audio forum and one of regulars suggested- I may want to read whole entire manual for Torq/Exponent before I work with it. I told him- I am glad he still has healthy sense of humor- read entire manual? I would never sleep. I already sleep 4 hours a night. Welcome in to synthsanity world!

Re: My is here

21 Jul 2009, 12:48
By the way- the V-Synth is a ROMpler- it is not analog synth. It is as much ROMpler as Motif- just less sounds. :)

Re: My is here

21 Jul 2009, 13:09
Astralv, having just 4 hours of sleep is very unhealthy. See, you can't already tell what's ROMpler and what is not, and I am afraid to send you to Wikipedia to read the definition, otherwise you might loose your sleep completely ;-)

Anyways, ROMpler is a synthesizer which plays ROM samples and has no ability to load new sounds into it. Synths like JUNO Stage and JUNO-Di are ROMplers. Fantoms are not, since they can import sample files and sample for additional sounds, they are not ROMplers. As for the V-Synths, they are even further away from ROMplers, since they offer analog modeling instead of sampled waveforms, and elastic VariPhase audio instead of static sample playback.

Re: My is here

21 Jul 2009, 13:35
Ok, Artemiy, far as I willing to take it, in my world- yes- there synth based on samples and analog synth. That is kind of outdated classification, but that's all I care. So to me- what ever has samples is a ROMpler, because it has it's own ROM, while the one's that able to load external samples would be samplers. There can be ROMpler and SAMpler in same box. Now there can also be pure analog machine, like Virus or Roland JP 8000, and can be sampler/ROMpler/Analog machine like NordLead that is analog but loads samples. I did not get in to details on V-Synth because every year they come up with new names for technologies. What was that one they came up for computers? The Motif has Expanded Articulation (XA) tone generation system or Mega Voices- please, do not ask me what it is. But I was under impression that V-Synth contains ROM with samples, and even trough it is editable, it still sample-based instrument. I am yet to experience VariPhase, but I know that ability to apply sound characteristics of other instruments was invented in 80th, so there is nothing new but the fancy name. But hey- Artemiy, I'm still having my PSR 520 somegrika and Yammy QS 300, so this is definitely a techology that should not be forgotten, as creating music itself can be as much fascinating as creating individual sounds.

Re: My is here

21 Jul 2009, 14:42
The way you're trying to treat the V-Synth is simply offensive! ;-)

All I can say is that you are not familiar with classification of music instruments. But you better learn it because your own imagined classification is wrong and will only lead you to confusion and wrong prejudice.

There are no real analog synths made by Roland, Yamaha, Korg, Access or Clavia. All of their instruments are digital, even though there exist many ways to generate sounds in digital instruments. There are very few analog synths available, mainly from companies like Moog and Dave Smith.

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