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My is here

I got my V-Synth GT last night. Had few hours with it. It sounds... nice. But whereare all electrnica sounds? I saw all these flutes on a demo- I suspected- it may be all they offer- flutes and guitar patches. Not wondering it's GT. I remember trying original V-Synth in store and being impressed with every sound, being electronica/industrial/noize oriented. Where are all those sounds? And 316 presets? Am I missing something? Yeah, ok- I did updated it right away so i have Version 2, but still- little over 300 sounds for almost $3k? It's like $10 per sound. Yes, I know I can make sounds, but I would like Roland to get off their behinds and do some programing work for the money they charge for it. Also- I saw there were some sounds on Roland's site. Any one installed them? Is it a project? Is it overwrites factories? Is there a way to have those sounds and factory together at same time in one project? Thanks.

Re: My is here

15 Jul 2009, 07:24
If you have updated to Ver.2.0, within the Factory Reset option, you can either boot in,
Ver 2.0
GT Analog
Ver 1.0
Each of them have about 300 presets, if I'm not wrong. But, after a while you wouldn't even bother with presets. The V is all about creating your own sounds. You might want to look at Artemiy's Tweakbook to understand the machine.
The newly updated patches are quite a treat.
Remember, you have the option to import any waveforms into the OSC and also any external input or sound source. Do you still need thousands of presets? :P

Re: My is here

15 Jul 2009, 09:18
Thank you all. I played with it last night- the sounds are very good. I went trough about 150 patches and so far it was not what I heard in verstio 1- the flutes and guitars- it had more leads and pads.

Artemiy, are you saying that sounds from original V-Synth can be loaded in to V-Synth GT? The link you offered did not have anything V-Synth original oriented for download. Have I missed it? I also downloaded something called "Tweakbook", and see lots of unknown files- my computer don't know what to open it with. What is it for and what am I opening it with?

How do I load Version 1 sounds? I don't even know how to load project- I don't see it. When I turn it on, it loading something (takes forever), but where it stored and how to get to it? GT Analog? Is it in it's internal memory?

Artemiy, I did see same libraries from Roland posted in GT section on your web site posted to V-Synth original. Are you saying- those sounds were released for Original and converted to GT format by Roland, or are they just compatable and would work on Original and GT?

I was looking in toordering your sound sets- can you e-mail me the proce for loyal custumer? Do I need to buy tweakbook or was it already for download- I still not sure what I downloaded.

Thanks.

Re: My is here

16 Jul 2009, 05:45
On your GT press 'Utility',

Then navigate to 'Factory Reset', you will see the option to boot in either Ver.2.0, GT Analog or Ver.1.0.

*Remember to save any changes/tweaks you've made.

Or navigate to 'Project' and you can load projects from your USB drive.

The 'Tweakbook' is in PDF format and has to be purchased.

Cheers.

Re: My is here

16 Jul 2009, 14:43
Thank you. So the only way to get sounds from version 1 is to do Factory reset? If I have Version 1 sounds loaded and created a project and saved it on a USB, but then loaded Version 2, and then turned synth off, and back on, and load saved project, would it load with sounds from version 1 or 2? Other words- will sounds get saved with project or should I be in same version? Thanks.

Re: My is here

17 Jul 2009, 12:23
Can I be so bold as to suggest you aren't ready for a V-Synth GT ... ???

.......

Part of the problem with V-Synth in terms of it being a preset machine is that -- even GT -- has a rather limited amount of sample ram ...

If you're complaining about a lack of playable presets, like others have said, you're missing the point COMPLETELY ...

I think somebody local is going to get a great deal on your GT ...

Good luck ... !!!
Some tunes and whatnot ...

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_music.cfm?bandID=405125



some tunes and whatnot ...
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=405125

Re: My is here

18 Jul 2009, 21:29
Diametro, I am not going to defend my credibility or brag about my gear or experience, just will say that I’ve been doing it for a good while. I am 36, playing piano starting when I was 10, and keys since 1995, and own several synth and workstations. I got your point about “making own sounds”. When I had my first keyboard, Yamaha QS 300, I used to mix elements in to voices (patches) and making performances out of it. I’ve been working with probably every possible manufacturer’s analog synth, such as Novation, Waldorf, Clavia, Access and so on. V-Synth has 2 elements to choose from and bunch of filters/envelopes. I got that. It is very similar to JP 800, that also had 2 elements, lots of knobs, making great controller I still use for my Triton. But let me tell you something:L I work very hard for my money. I have a day job and getting paid hourly. So if I concert how much I spent on V-Synth in to how many hours I had to work to save for it, it puts a lot of expectations on a machine. Don’t mean me wrong. It sounds great. But it just blew my yearly savings, so I kind of like to be able to enjoy it. You saying V-Synth have limited amount of sample RAM- don’t say it as it is a good thing. If Roland charges $3000 for it, they better put some RAM in to it, and if they can’t- they better hire good programmers team and program something to sell. Because if I have to program it all myself- I can do it on my old Roland JP8000 or Virus. Just because I can program it does not mean- I want to do it. Don’t we all enjoyed the Connect project for Fantom? It made the difference. Now at least Fantom feels like inspiring product. Would you not be happy if they invest some resources to program V-Synth for you as well? You know- I turn on EMU Audity- it’s 1998 sound module. It has 6 Mb of sample RAM. And they made 5x127 banks of sounds. And it is not some “Rodes pan right, rodes pan left” sounds- they are full never repeated useful leads, pads, FXs and so on. So I appreciate hardware, but with out good programming the proce is not justified. And this conversation is not even about the money. It is about what you getting for your money. If Roland hire me, for a reasonable compensation I can program that thing the way they never imaging. And how much I would charge for it? Well- it depends how good they want it to be, but for $1000 I can do pretty good job. So why in a world they would not spend some money and have some meaningful material to offer along with hardware?

Re: My is here

19 Jul 2009, 00:56
Astralv, I am not sure how to comment on this, since I hardly see a problem. There are tons of sounds available free of charge for the GT, didn't you see all the additional free patches that we and Roland released?

Here is the sound set from classic V-Synth (2003's model):
http://www.rolandclan.com/media/18/V-Synth%202.0%20patches.zip

These are patches from my Tweakbook:
http://www.rolandclan.com/media/18/V-Synth%20Tweakbook.zip

Here you can download patches from famous artists:
http://www.roland.com/V-Synth/download.html

Re: My is here

19 Jul 2009, 09:58
Just adding on those, I have actually, including all the ones Artemiy mentioned, at least more 500 patches and all the ones from the V-Synth v1.51, converted for V 2.0. In total, much more than 1500 patches...

If you get all the ones Art mentioned, plus the ones that come with the GT, plus all the ones available from the Roland V-Synth microsite, you will get a huge number of patches, but as Diametro said, the beauty of this monster is the ability to create new sounds, from scratch or even from existing ones.

Take a look to this thread, where, based on Cromio's work, I've repacked V-Synth v 1-51 Patches

http://forums.rolandclan.info/?p=show&action=show_thread&thread=29341&fid=4&page=last

I hope this would be of some help
Take Care
PauloF
Make Music and be Happy !!
PauloF

Re: My is here

19 Jul 2009, 14:59
Thank you, guys. I am sworry- my brain is melting. I have to work on it and see if I have more questions. Please, check back on me some time late tonight or tomorrow. Thanks very much. Me.

Re: My is here

19 Jul 2009, 21:02
Artemiy, where is the .prj file? I downloaded Version 2.o of original V-Synth but what do I put on USB stick? Same about one of your files that saves as "tweakbook" Is there a prj file?

Re: My is here

20 Jul 2009, 01:17
Have you unzipped the files you've downloaded? You'll see .prj folders inside.

Re: My is here

20 Jul 2009, 03:14
I did- seriously- well- it does show you folder content before you extract. I see anything but prj file. What folder are you looking in?

Re: My is here

20 Jul 2009, 03:41
When I download and unzip the Tweakbook patches, for example, I see this:

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