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I don't get this V piano

I don't get this V piano

19 Feb 2009, 15:39
I have a bit of musical experience, have been playing the piano for 26 years now. I've played a fair bit on various acoustic "classics" such as the Petrof, Bosendorfer, Bechstein, Bluthner and the like. I'm also familiar with the Kawai and Yamaha acoustic sound.
So I do appreciate a good sound.

Have to say by watching the videos here and on youtube (by the way, good job Roland, the videos are very good and sell the product qualities well), am still very confused as to who this product actually targets.
The sound seems to be very good, and capabilities of tuning are impressive, however, I'm not sure that me, as a pianist, would ever need to change/tweak all those bits... I mean once I'll get a sound that satisfies me, I'll stick with it.
The sound changes can be extremely subtle, so using the V piano in a band I consider pointless, nobody would hear the difference, unless one goes to extremes.

So that leaves for me single performance, but for that price.... am really not sure. Already in the 6000 range one can get pretty decent acoustic pianos. And there will never be comparison. On V Synth I guess monitors will do half the job anyway.

And I'm guessing this is not very light either...? So, bottom line, while it's a great machine, for me is not clear what the overal purpose is... I used to have an electric upright from the Roland HP series, which was not brilliant, but a whole class above Yamaha, not to mention cheaper brands like Casio, etc... For indoor performance, appartment, etc, it was excellent. And costed around 1000 EUR.

To be fair, it seems a product done just because technolgoy allowed it... personally I'll chose a 6000$ acoustic over a 6000$ electric any day or night :)

peace, I'm still a Roland fan

Re: I don't get this V piano

19 Feb 2009, 16:13
Hey Profu!

Thank-you for your thoughts. I guess my question to you would be, 'What is a piano supposed to sound like?'

I also have a great deal of 'piano' experience! (41 years now) and am thinking that this product would be marketed to guys like myself who play and record a wide range of styles and understand that these styles can demand completely different qualities of piano timbre. Playing Blues, Boogie, or Ragtime, I appreciate a particular 'tone' to the instrument I am working with, which is quite in-contrast to the sound I may want when playing a Grieg Nocturne, for example. It has been my experience that one cannot achieve this variety of tone with one acoustic piano.

You may not 'get' the V-Piano, but I certainly will! (That is, after I convince my wife that it is a 'need'!) =)

Cheers!
PiaKnowGuy
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Re: I don't get this V piano

20 Feb 2009, 02:31
hi my friend,

I appreciate and respect your opinion. Obviously one doesn't play scott joplin and debussy on the same piano sound. You are right about the recording, I was mainly thinking of live performance when I've wrote my post. If you need the convenience of having this in your home rather than go to a studio to record on an acoustic grand (which would not compare soundwise in my opinion), then yes, it is a choice.
However, to benefit from all the nice technolgoy and different sound tweaks, etc, the result, the output would have to be ... a record. In which case, there are the acoustic grands in studios. Otherwise, for demo songs, etc... hm not sure the price justifies it. One can get very good piano sounds on the G for instance, and tweak them in hundreds of ways. Yes, one doesn't get ALL the nice touches like messing with the hammer size and string and all that, but am just saying I'm not sure who would want that... I mean the difference, considering the price, is very small in my opinion.
And again, if we are talking about professional music production, I very much doubt that we'll see the V piano in concert halls/recording studios next to a Schiedmeyer or Steinway.

Re: I don't get this V piano

24 Feb 2009, 11:03
i want one not because i am a pianist, but as a electronic
keyboard player/composer (hobbiest) it has always been the
challenge/the goal to get a true piano sound from an
electronic instrument. My G8 is closer, but still not there
yet.

i am hoping V-piano delivers that last piece of the puzzle. :)

also, for most people living at home playing their uprights
or babygrands, etc. you're not getting the true sonic
qualities of your piano in your acoustically uncontrolled
living room. with V-piano and some nice set of monitors,
acoustic tuning including EQ, you can not only get great
piano sounds, but play in private (at night), and make
great piano recordings as well. try that with your piano at
home... you will need some serious engineering talent to
be able to record your piano to its potential even before
you can start playing.

i dont think the v-piano was made to replace a steinway
at a concert hall... it was made as a benchmark for
new technology and shared for normal folks like me who
want it because i just want it for closure to my long
journey of getting 'that piano sound.' :)

plus, it looks good.

Re: I don't get this V piano

26 Feb 2009, 22:02
you are the only one ready to buy, per my reading on keyboard forums

looking forward to you review
GregC

Re: I don't get this V piano

27 Feb 2009, 19:40
GregC,
I'm sorry, but there are more people ready to buy the "beast" ;-)
Piaknowguy is one of them, and I would too, if I was a pianist (and provided I had the money for it), as that is really THE PIANO !!
Make Music and be Happy !!
PauloF

Re: I don't get this V piano

28 Feb 2009, 09:36
ok that makes 2

You had to many ' ifs' so you don't count

If thousand dollar bills fell out of the sky, I might buy one too
:D
GregC

Re: I don't get this V piano

28 Feb 2009, 11:32
Better make that 3!!! :-)

I want one too, it’s amazing! Not just the sound but technically as well. I can’t wait to dig into this technology.

Re: I don't get this V piano

28 Feb 2009, 13:18
GregC,

Yeap...you win !!! LoL
Make Music and be Happy !!
PauloF

Re: I don't get this V piano

28 Feb 2009, 21:42
zeph, ok , dude ! Around 5/15, we expect a full report
:D
GregC

Re: I don't get this V piano

1 Mar 2009, 15:41
I want one but it's going to be awhile till I can afford one in this economy.

I heard from RolandUS list price is $4995.

V-Piano wins coveted

3 Mar 2009, 15:34
The V-Piano has earned the coveted "Best in Show" award at NAMM 2009, in recognition of its breakthrough technology. "This is an unbelievable sound. The first time I heard it, I said it's like sticking your head inside a Steinway D," raves panelist Greg Billings of Steinway Piano Gallery. "If you thought the V-Drums revolutionised electronic drums or the V-Guitar revolutionised guitars, this is beyond."
Not from a representative of Steinway?!!! ;>)

Cheers!
PiaKnowGuy
Watch a video of - Some Guitar Shredding Done entirely on the X8!

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per sweetwater...

8 Apr 2009, 16:08
"Roland has informed us that this item has an unusually long shipping delay. Be assured we'll get it as quick or quicker than anyone else. Call your Sales Engineer, who can give you the most up-to-date details and possibly offer you alternatives that would ship sooner."


oh well... probably some damn titanimum screws they forgot to order with 16week lead-time. hahaha

Re: I don't get this V piano

9 Apr 2009, 10:05
I applaud your patience
GregC

Re: I don't get this V piano

18 May 2009, 07:57
Well, I can't understand this V-Piano thing neither. I've heard the audio demonstrations and it still false sounding. I play the classical piano since 10 years old, and tasted a bit of a lot of great pianos... I can assure that a vertical piano has a better sound. What I think they haven't improved a lot is the resonance of the natural piano and probably it will never be the same.
Great features on tweaking, but none of them are realistic pianos. This is because I've heard it from a record, imagine this live...... certainly has a lot to improve.

I can't see who will buy this thing.............. it's better to get an acoustic piano.

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