NEW Fantom G8 User is stuck. Please Help!!

15 Feb 2009, 10:49

Hey guys. I just got my fantom last week and while I've so far been pretty much amazed by this machine I've run into one problem that for the life of me I can't resolve.

(This could have something to do with my junior knowledge of midi)

So here's the thing...

1. I enter song mode and record a "stabbing" guitar line on line 1
2. I record a second drum drack on line 2
3. I record a piano track on line three

The problem is when I play back, my piano track has lost all of it's sustain.

So to troubleshoot I muted my guitar line and left only the drum and piano line to play.

The issue went away and the piano's sustain notes came back.

I muted the drum line and left the guitar and piano playing and the problem persisted.

So it's something about the guitar that's stripping the sustain notes from the piano.

Does this have something to do with those two tracks sharing some kind of channel?

Do I need more ram?

Thanks a lot!!!

Jb

Re: NEW Fantom G8 User is stuck. Please Help!!

15 Feb 2009, 11:48

tell us how you record your parts into the sequencer.

do you record your 3 parts into one phrase?

Re: NEW Fantom G8 User is stuck. Please Help!!

15 Feb 2009, 13:57

Thanks for your reply r4uz,

I go into studio mode. I select the first track (guitar). By track I mean each individual vertical column with a slider ( 16 total ).

I go into Song mode select the first track (here when I say track I mean the horizontal lane) and record there.

Go back into studio mode. select the second track (drums)

Go back to song mode and scroll down to the second track and record there.

Return to Studio mode and select the third track piano .

Return to Song mode and record into the third track.

When I look in song mode I see that the phrases on each track are different (124, 125, 126 )

Thanks again!!!
Jb

Re: NEW Fantom G8 User is stuck. Please Help!!

15 Feb 2009, 14:00

Hey, but that is what it should be! You recorded three different phrases on three tracks, that's it... What's wrong here?

Re: NEW Fantom G8 User is stuck. Please Help!!

15 Feb 2009, 14:11

Thanks Artemy,

Problem is the sustain of the third track is getting stripped.

so i record a guitar track, than drums, then a sustained piano track ( used the sustain pedal while playing ).

When I listen to all three tracks the sustain from the piano is gone.

Thanks again
JB

Re: NEW Fantom G8 User is stuck. Please Help!!

15 Feb 2009, 14:30

When you press the record button, you see the record standby window. There, press F7 Rec Select and make sure all the tick marks are on.

Re: NEW Fantom G8 User is stuck. Please Help!!

15 Feb 2009, 14:47

hey Jbusiness83,

let's introduce some fantom-G terminology:
a part is one of those 16 vertical lanes in the studio mode window.
a track is one of the horizontal tracks in the sequencer window.
a phrase is a recorded clip in the sequencer.

so you have 3 different phrases on 3 different tracks and on each phrase a different part. they should not influence eachother... Did you by accident record the piano part into the guitar phrase?
What happens if you re-record everything from scratch again?

Re: NEW Fantom G8 User is stuck. Please Help!!

15 Feb 2009, 14:52

Jbusiness83: Have you updated to the newest 1.20 operating system?

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Re: NEW Fantom G8 User is stuck. Please Help!!

15 Feb 2009, 15:03

Artemiy,

Yes all ticks are checked.

R4,

Thanks I'll use that terminology going forward.

So yes I have 3 unique phrases on 3 different tracks each on a different part. I'm sure I'm not overlapping parts or phrases because each phrase has it's own number on the song interface and when I look at studio mode, there are 3 separate tracks lit up while it's playing back.

Jessej,

Have not updated the operating system at all. Where/how can I do that?

Everyone,

Thanks a LOT for your help with this.

JB

Re: NEW Fantom G8 User is stuck. Please Help!!

15 Feb 2009, 15:17

The information on how to make an OS update is here:
http://forums.rolandclan.info/?action=show_thread&thread=24367&fid=8&page=1

Re: NEW Fantom G8 User is stuck. Please Help!!

15 Feb 2009, 15:44

Jbusiness83,

the funny thing with phrases is that they can contain multiple parts. phrases are actually something like mini-sequencers inside the sequencer.
you can record as much as all of the 16 parts into one phrase.

have you tried re-recording everything?

oh and when you record, do you record in mix mode or in replace mode?

Re: NEW Fantom G8 User is stuck. Please Help!!

15 Feb 2009, 15:50

Update worked!! Weird but I'm glad it's fixed.

Thanks a lot guys. I'll be sticking around as this seems to be a great forum.

r4uz,

when I record I use replace.

Thanks again
Jb

Re: NEW Fantom G8 User is stuck. Please Help!!

15 Feb 2009, 20:41

either your G8owner14, or G8owner14 needs to read this thread.

Problem sounds the same. Solution maybe the same.

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Re: NEW Fantom G8 User is stuck. Please Help!!

18 Feb 2009, 19:28

The problem I have that Atlas5 mentioned is very similar, although I did the update upon purchase of the G8.

I am recording the parts just as this post, but upon playback the first part (or track) is playing all 3 of the patches from the 1st 3 parts. My piano part is suddenly a piano/Rhodes/bass part.

The details can be seen here, and any answers would be awesome!

(url)http://forums.rolandclan.info/?action=show_thread&thread=28136&fid=8&page=last#168721

Re: NEW Fantom G8 User is stuck. Please Help!!

18 Feb 2009, 21:36

Press MENU>F2>F4

What is your System Version number?

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