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>When the piano smf file starts playing on track 1, it plays all 3 patches.

Why does it do that? It shouldn't.

That's your oddball. Have you recorded all on the same midi channel?

If you go to your 'mixer', that is press the STUDIO button, and you are on the Internal screen. Press F3 and go into Part View. Look to the rightmost column of the screen, you have your MIDI Rx Channels there.. Is there any of those that are accidentally set to listen to the same midi channel?

If yes, then set them incrementally so they do not collide.

If that doesn't work, take the phrase into microscope and check what is going on.

PS. Posting the exact same post 3-4 under different topics doesn't really help. Rephrase if we don't understand the problem. Explain further. Avoid confusing us by talking about how interesting the bass is.

We seem to be missing something. Good luck and keep retrying, by re-phrasing your question/issue/problems.

Why do you call your song file an SMF? At this point in the sequencing of a new song being produced on the Fantom G, you should be talking about phrases, tracks and MIDI channels.

You are also confusing me in regards to MC808, (please unplug it and mail it to me, he he I want one)

No seriously unplug the MIDI from the MC808 and sequence and try again.

The behavior you describe is not typical for the Fantom G. I have sequenced multi-tracks songs and imported multi-track SMF's all with no problems. Maybe the problem is in your MIDI configuration. Try to eliminate things by removing them and testing the result.



I know you would like to sync the MC808 and the Fantom G, but solve one problem at a time.

Thanks for the ideas. It seems that one of these should definitely solve the problem. I did the repost to try and get a faster answer before practice, normally I would have posted it on the same thread. Sorry for the extra thread now. I think it definitely helped to restate my problem however, as these answers look to be right on point.

Currently the MC-808 is not connected. We are sequencing the beat and piano tracks separately on the two machines, and will attempt to sync them once this is complete. Only doing the beat separate on the MC-808 to make it easier for the drummer to mix beats on the fly, plus he is already used to using it with just the beat in his machine.

I think jesse's idea will be the winner here, but I will check it all out this wekend. I will repost to this thread afterwards. thanks for th ideas guys.

>thanks for th ideas guys.

Please keep us posted on how you are doing!

Hey G8owner14, see the thread titled:

"NEW Fantom G8 User is stuck. Please Help!!"

problem sounds similar.

I checked out that thread, thanks for the heads up. Very similar, but seems he is only losing his sustain. I also did the OS update the first day I got the machine.

I am going to put a link on that post to see if anyone may check this one out and have some more ideas.

I tried checking the midi setup in studio mode, and everything was set incrementally on the right hand side of the screen as it should be. I have played with microscope and the phrase looks to be ok, what exactly should I be looking for?

I thought about trying this from a different angle. Instead of me telling you guys the problems I have after I attempt to do my work, would any of you be so kind to tell me how you would go about the situation? If you could tell me any settings to confirm before starting I could eliminate that initially.

All I am trying to do is sequence about 8 tracks. I need to start with the piano and I will play it live and record it in the sequencer. Then the Rhodes on the 2nd track while listening to piano, bass on the 3rd, etc…

Any settings and basic ideas might solve the issue, or maybe I did something crazy. I am new to midi but owned and ran a studio for about 6 years, as well as continue to record in a private smaller studio now, so I am very familiar with audio recording. I also used to sequence beat tracks on a Triton Studio 88 at the studio for hip hop and rap groups, so I am not completely new to a sequencer. I think I am just missing some setting or basic concept. Thanks!

sorry if I implied your not following along.

I've personally record multiple tracks (8+, each only contains one MIDI channel) the songs, play back correctly.

I've imported multi track SMF's, they too work as expected. Although I have had to assign the correct patches (sounds).

I've import single track SMF's (multiple midi channels on one tracks). I've had to copy them to multiple tracks and then delete each track down to contain only one MIDI channel's data. Then assign patches. No problems.

(I wish there was a way to convert Type 0 to Type 1 SMF's automatically.)

I guess my (other's) problem with your issue is that I (we) don't experience it. So, your issue is not a matter of worthyness, but a lack of understand as to why.

The only similar problem I've had is going into Song Mode from Live Mode and not Studio Mode.

Another troubleshooting technique I commonly use is to read dialog or preference/initial config screens out-loud. Sometime using software is not straight forward. Sometime the "Yes" or check box means something different than I expect. And like most people, I dont really read the dialog or verify configuration settings until I have problems. I assume the default answer is what I want.

I seen some complex question on this forum with simple to complex solutions.....so dont give up, the responders here generally are well versed with the instrument and the concepts of various applications.

Hi, this is a difficult one to nail. I've not got anything like the expereince of other forum members, but I have worked mostly in song / studio mode putting backing tracks together (either from scratch or importing). I've never come across this type of problem - i'm intrigued to find the answer!

if you delete all phrases except the piano phrase, does it still play all 3 patches?

If not and you add a second phrase (EP), is it just the first phrase which triggers both pianos, or does absolutely everything get combined?

In microscope view, does the piano phrase only ever play over one midi channel? and does the EP phrase play a different midi channel.

I have tried deleteing all but the piano, and still get the same effect. I have the other patches still assigned to other tracks (or parts I guess). How can I check the piano phrase in microscope to see if it covers more than one channel? I am no microscope pro, but I am familiar enough to get to it and analyze the phrase.

Also, I am not giving up! I love my G and everything about it, even with the current issue. It does everything I want and more, and it sounds great. Thanks guys!

OK, i'm not sure if this is going to help but worth a try I guess. in song edit, go into Edit Phrase then Microscope. then channel. use the jog wheel to move through channels 1-16, is data recorded against only one channel or several?

If its several, then that explains why you get more than just the piano, as other parts are being triggered. If they are playing exactly the same notes, then every note would need to be duplicated on several channels, which I would find surprising.

If it is only one channel, then go into Studio mode part view and just double check that the Rx Ch are all different (although I think you have already checked this out).

Then i'm out of ideas!

Try this as a test..although I think this is exactly what you are doing anyway..

If you load an init song, go to studio, select track1, a piano patch, go back to song and record a phrase.
still in song, select track2, go to studio, select track2, a bass patch (or whatever), go back to song and record another phrase.
These should play separatey, phrase1 will be on track one playing midi channel 1, and phrase2 on trrack 2 playing midi channel 2.