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Opening the Wishlist for future OS

Re: Opening the Wishlist for future OS

5 Nov 2008, 08:04
GNU open source of the Fantom G software!!!!!!! (dream)

I will do a lot of new features for the community... no charge of course!!!! :-))))
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Re: Opening the Wishlist for future OS

8 Nov 2008, 02:44
Hey hey wishlist thread. I've hardly posted on these forums much - the intial wave of studio mode complaints put me off for awhile.

And I haven't really complained about anything here yet, but seeing the 2nd OS update come out with such insignificant updates to the Live Mode section of the synth (and a page of updates to the studio+sequencer) has prompted me to do a bit of whining of my own.

Dan Krisher from Roland has directed me to this thread, apparently a thread titled "wishlist" is significant enough for the people on roland to actually read! If I knew that, I wouldn't have bothered posting seperate threads about my concerns, I would have just dumped it all in here.

I do love this machine, it's been really great for me. But I feel if I don't speak up again and again like others have, I may never be heard.
So that out of the way, here is my "wishlist":

1. Currently, the D-beam "assignable" function and the knobs only affect ONE part at a time. As opposed to the sliders, aftertouch and expression pedal - these affect all parts. Why? What possible reason is there for this?
Why not a screen like the "Ctrl switch" screen, where the user can specify how and what CCs are and aren't affected by all controllers?

2. The D-beam pad trigger setting currently only triggers pad 1. Shift+Pad trigger/Changing the "beam trigger pad" to trigger other pads actually does nothing.
Transposing patches that are assigned to the pads does not work either.
The "pad setting" button only appears to work for actual samples, which is actually kind of useless considering how easy it is to map samples across the keyboard in single mode.
I'm actually not convinced that this is really a bug, it's such a blindingly obvious thing that can't have possibly gone unnoticed for this long. Though i've looked all over for the answer, and haven't gotten anywhere...

3. On that note, why can we only use the arp/sam/rhy setting for one patch only? I would very much like to be able to trigger two different patches using the pads, or to have an arpeggiator affect two or more patches.

4. How difficult would it be to map the same patch into two (or more) different place across the keyboard? ie. I want a patch to start at C4 and end at E5, and then start again at C6 and end at E7, without using two tracks to map them seperately. I may even want to tranpose one of them, though that might be pushing it.
It's not really a question of polyphony, since it's the same patch. Why not? I've used other synths where this is possible.

Ok that's it for now, this is long enough. I may update this with more conundrums as I encounter them.

Remember,
FANTOM G: IT'S ALL ABOUT LIVE!

Further reading:
A sadly short-lived but useful and informative thread on live mode:
http://forums.rolandclan.info/index.php?action=show_thread&thread=25563&fid=8&page=1
Some threads highlighting the lack of practical D-beam functionality in live mode:
http://forums.rolandclan.info/index.php?action=show_thread&thread=24538&fid=8&page=1
http://forums.rolandclan.info/index.php?action=show_thread&thread=24095&fid=8&page=1
A recent thread regarding the pad assigning problem:
http://forums.rolandclan.info/index.php?action=show_thread&thread=26454&fid=8&page=1

Re: Opening the Wishlist for future OS

8 Nov 2008, 15:39
1.20 Sequencer issues

Cannot Splice Phrase with or without mouse.

When editing phase you cannot jump to marker and it does not remember where you stopped so it goes to the beginning of the song. You have to tab to the spot.

No mouse right click functionality on phrase or track at all.

Am I wrong?
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Re: Opening the Wishlist for future OS

8 Nov 2008, 18:27
OS 1.20 gave interesting improvements, but...
I'd like possibility to edit notes with mouse in miscroscope edition (like a piano roll edition)
I'd like possibility to copy a live set to studio set.
...between us, is this possible for a next OS version ?
Twinton
Sorry for my poor english... I'm french !

Re: Opening the Wishlist for future OS

9 Nov 2008, 00:06
Ok, another one:

5.
The tempo in the live sets should change with the live sets, ie. not be fixed. Would be so great to be able to write a tempo into a live set, for example I want a delay effect to delay in 8th notes to what i'm playing at 120bpm. In the same song I may want to set an arpeggiator pattern at 145bpm. This seems another obvious thing which would make my programming life so much easier.

Re: Opening the Wishlist for future OS

9 Nov 2008, 03:05
I have 3 synths on top of eachother in a keyboard stand. The Fantom G is the main one and thus the bottom one.

The D-Beam thinks that the synth on top of it is a hand and is constantly triggered.

This makes the D-beam unusable. Please make it work, some kind of calibration screen is needed / I can't find one.

- Jesse -
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Re: Opening the Wishlist for future OS

9 Nov 2008, 04:40
My wishlist for the next update (and more) :

- New sounds (programming or waveforms like Korg M3 supercharge or xpanded version)
- MP3 functionnality like Juno Stage
- Import / Export MP3 files
- Convert or copy MIDI tracks to audio tracks
- Bouncing function on audio tracks
- Storage projects to USB HDD directly connected on Fantom G
- Edit notes with mouse in microscope edition
- Routing metronome sound to separatly output or phones
- Roland SRX serie soundbanks downloadable on USB storage to import on Fantom G
- Roland legacy models soundbanks downloadable on USB storage to import on Fantom G (roland JV serie, JD990, D50...)
- New features in synthesis functions (ring modulator, new filters...)

Thanks :-)
Roland FANTOM G6 - Alesis FUSION 8HD - Korg MICRO X White - Yamaha TG77 - Casio CZ1000

Re: Opening the Wishlist for future OS

9 Nov 2008, 10:06
Still can't transpose key ranges being sent to external devices in live mode from within the keyboard. :(
Roland Fantom G6 (2), G7, VK-8M
Korg M50, CX3

Re: Opening the Wishlist for future OS

9 Nov 2008, 16:10
>Still can't transpose key ranges being sent to external devices in live mode from within the keyboard. :(

I was just about to write about the same thing... I would be nice if this is fixed asap, as this is function IS available in the editor.

Speaking of which, please update the editor too!!
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Re: Opening the Wishlist for future OS

9 Nov 2008, 20:45
Not sure there is a problem here...

I have external devices and the G keyboard main transpose takes care of the pitch..

However if you want to change the pitch of individual parts externally..

From what i can see, each part is treated just like a single synth
transposing 1 part does not effect the others so they are independent in that way.

Your external device is also treated as a part, therefore if you want to change its pitch you would do it at the source (the external keyboard)



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Re: Opening the Wishlist for future OS

10 Nov 2008, 08:36
> Not sure there is a problem here...

I'm playing a VK-8M from my G7. Where I'm triggering it from (bottom, middle or top of the G7 keyboard) and which notes I want triggered on the VK-8M really depends on the song. It's a PITA to have to fire up the software to change (transpose) the range of notes that are transmitted. Anybody who owns a VK-8M would understand that this isn't something you're going to do from the module itself...especially if it needs to be done on the fly between songs. Any decent controller would be able to handle this (and the Fantom G can do it as well). I spoke with Roland about it a couple of months ago. They said the capability was accidentally left out of the keyboard's menus and is on the list of things to be fixed. Maybe 1.30?
Roland Fantom G6 (2), G7, VK-8M
Korg M50, CX3

Re: Opening the Wishlist for future OS

10 Nov 2008, 08:43
It's a PITA to have to fire up the software to change (transpose) the range of notes that are transmitted.It's a PITA to have to fire up the software to change (transpose) the range of notes that are transmitted.


Exactly. PITA is the same reason why I would really like to be able to define the key range that is actually let through to an external module/keyboard when played from the G keyboard. With its big screen the G is in a perfect position to do such basic tasks and by concentrating these things (transpose, key range) in one place (the G) it really simplifies a multi-keyboard/module setup with the G acting as the nerve center.
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Re: Opening the Wishlist for future OS

11 Nov 2008, 18:41
Since the 1.20 update I think there are still a few things missing.

Track solo and mute automation.

Split notes feature from the MV 8800 to separate rhythm parts by pitch.

Use mouse to range select for new song edit functions.

Better chopping with auto assign to rhythm patch with no manual fiddling with root note parameters etc. This is at least 10x faster on the MV

Zero cross option for sample trim to increment by zero cross. (not like it is does on the MV but real time)

Phrase edit locates in sync with song playback.

Phrase edit across phrases like moving specific notes to another phrase, split phrase etc.

Mouse for phrase edits.

Quantize with real time audition of tweaks

Add strength adjustment to shuffle so we can adjust swing and strength at the same time.

Add shift timing or delay offset to quantize.

Add swing velocity adjustment with overall velocity to emphasize swing or ghost notes.

Re: Opening the Wishlist for future OS

11 Nov 2008, 19:44
New pattern mode.

Before I made some suggestions for pattern mode. Some of that functionality now exist in song mode with the auto track feature so why not just integrate pattern features right in song mode.

This can be done using the marker feature. The marker window has room for more functions on screen. There could be in addition "loop markers". They will have the additional ability to engage an infinite loop of a particular section. When selecting or jumping to a new loop marker you have the option to quantize to new selection by bars. This way it will wait until the next bar to jump to the next loop marker. The markers can be selected with the pads like now you just have the option to choose loop or normal markers with the function buttons.

There would also be a need to record this to a new phrase or song. RPS could also be used for loop markers during live recording or at least be able to step record loop markers to a new song to rearrange the order of you composition.

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