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Less "High End" in the G?

3 Jun 2008, 16:30
While listening to drum loop samples in my X and in my G, I noticed a slight drop-off in the high frequencies when playing the loops in the G. I also recorded a song from the X into a track in the G using spdif, and, while the level remained the same, observed a noticeable lack of 'sizzle' in the high end. Has anyone else tried this?
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Re: Less "High End" in the G?

3 Jun 2008, 17:12
Yes , I'm very disappointed about sound quality when I sample a sound
in my G 8.
There is a drop from 8 Khz upwards of at list 3 or 4 db .
Try sample some white noise and you'll see it ...
It sounds like the sample frequency is 22.050 instead of 44.100 ...
Thank God I don't need to sample with the Fantom ...
... still , its a shame ...
But the rest is brilliant ...
Ciao

Re: Less "High End" in the G?

1 Sep 2008, 21:51
I'm not sure if it's related, but one thing that I've been doing is comparing the preset sounds with my old (15+yr) Roland Synth - and basically the sounds coming out of the FG all tend to sound 'flat' in comparison, with much less high-freqs. I thought this used to be an issue with synths using compressed samples, which could effectively stomp the high-end - I hope the FG doesn't suffer the same issues? I've only done a few quick sampling tests, but nothing to test freq-response yet, for instance, does the same issue occur using the 'internal re-sampling'?

Re: Less "High End" in the G?

1 Sep 2008, 23:12
Have you turned the compressor off in the Mastering section?

Re: Less "High End" in the G?

2 Sep 2008, 04:25
I think by default, the Audio Input has assigned an equalizer to it, have you tried removing all processing from the way before sampling?

Re: Less "High End" in the G?

4 Sep 2008, 04:22
cgreene...just been listening to some of your stuff...sounds great!

Just wondered what organ sound you used on Summer Madness?
F X6 SRX07, SRX98, SRX08 Guitarist\songwriter Trying to get to grips with Synths

Re: Less "High End" in the G?

5 Sep 2008, 14:50
Having had an X6 side by side by a G6 I can say the new Fantom has much more clarity and presence in all frequencies. The samples indeed sound a little differently than they did in the X, but I can't say there is a lack of highs. If you feel this way, just perform the "emphasize" procedure in the sample editor.

Re: Less "High End" in the G?

5 Sep 2008, 19:28
Yeah. I am not finding any 'less high end' in my samples either... I have no idea what you are talking about... on the contrary, the G is very transparent and true...
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Re: Less "High End" in the G?

6 Sep 2008, 01:32
I wonder how many claims regarding poor sound quality are related to the monitoring systems?

Every time I go some place like guitar center and audition sounds, I find that most the keyboards sound like crap. And I know this isn't so. Playing the Fantom G, there made me sad, the sound quality was worse than the the various samples/video's on the web.

I would (do) expect to get better results in audio quality on any keyboard, than experienced on the web, and I always have.

I have an Fantom X7, M3-61, Motif XS6, and I know the sound quality is good. I record songs monitoring through KRK PBM6.5's, Mackie SRM450's and the results are excellent. Mix's tend to be transferable to my car/computer/other peoples systems. Yet at ye ole guitar center, the same keyboards sounded weak and uninspiring.

PS: I want a Fantom G so bad I can just hear it, soon!
Fantom G & X7, Motif XS6, M3, V-synth, JP8000, M1, Wavestation, Radias, Nord Lead 2X, Karma, Snow, electribes and other groove boxes.

Re: Less "High End" in the G?

9 Sep 2008, 02:12
I would also suggest anyone who has a problem to report to make sure they perform an OS update first.

Re: Less "High End" in the G?

10 Sep 2008, 10:27
I just bought a G8. One of the first thing I noticed when i internally sampled a hihat, I also miss (have less) the very high frequenties. I updated my OS to the latest and got rid of all effects. And still this is the case.
I think I will use my computer for sampling although it is still disappointing.

If there is a work around for this it would be great.

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