Track assignment?

You can't with the current OS unless I am missing something. I can't understand how this was overlooked.

There is 128 MIDI tracks and 24 audio tracks. You obviously can't change them for what they are, because they are apples and oranges.

However, you can change the order (reorder) the tracks while in Song Play:

1. Select the track you want to move up or down
2. Press F7 (Song Util) and select 'Zoom/Track order'
3. Do your reordering as preferred. (Meanwhile at it, set your horizontal zoom preference with the cursors)
4. You could save your preference as a INIT SONG (without song data) to be used as a future 'preset'.

So nothing is overlooked or needs to be changed referring to this subject.

PS. I wish I could custom color the tracks thou, that option should be in the Song Utility Menu.

- Jesse -

The way it works now is silly. I can't recall any updated sequencer where you can't freely assign the track type to MIDI or AUDIO. This is a very basic concept.

I am very curious jahrome what is hard about scrolling down to the audio track section to record audio and scrolling to the midi channell section to record midi and not using what you don't need? I feel like that takes no time at all... Honest question...


Tone jovial

What is so hard? Numerous poorly implemented functions such as this start to add up. So we have too options......

1. Too defend the Fantom G as being the greatest thing since sliced bread
2. Post feedback in hopes that it will be addressed in a future OS update

I think I will take #2. As I wrote earlier...in a modern workstation, you should be able to go to any track and select whether you want to record audio or MIDI. What's so difficult to understand?

It seems you are making a problem of something that is not a problem... what is so hard? You have 2 options, MIDI or Audio. And you can move them to wherever you want. Nothing is broken.

Why would you want to record Audio to a MIDI channel and need to "change it"? Just scroll down and record it to a Audio channel, goddamit!

I agree that there is several things that needs to be fixed and improved on the Fantom G and I'm 100% sure it will never have as much features as logic/cubase etc (obviously) and I am not defending Roland in any way, on the contrary, but your issue with this is not an issue in any way. It's just you being stubborn and unwilling to learn to use it propely.

- Jesse -

I am making a problem for who?

You appear to be missing the point or not actually familiar with audio and MIDI sequencers. The OS on the Fantom is really incomplete. This is just one of the features that needs to be addressed. Yes, it is minor but needs fixing. You should be able to go to any track and freely assign it as a MIDI or audio track. Simple.

Better yet, Roland can improve the sequencer by removing all the tracks. Why list 172 tracks with nothing recorded to them? We should be able to just enter the SONG mode and assign the number of MIDI or audio tracks I want in a song.

Regardless....nothing you can write will change my list of improvements to the Fantom G. This is just one of several dozen....like the broken horizontal bar below the sequencer's window.

Ok, basically you want Cubase on the Fantom G.

And now I'm out of this thread...

I hope another OS update will fix the FACT that you cannot turn this machine on with your mind. I have to reach all the way around to the back of the machine EVERY SINGLE TIME to turn it on. We have spent too much money for this not to be standard on this machine. GEEZ US ROLAND!!!

other FG shortcomings

1. I have to BUY a Microphone to make use of the Phantom power
2. you can't order a pizza from the Pads
3. the sequencer factors in foot massages which takes away from the polyphony

jahrome, why in the world would you want to change the type of the track? This operation would mean you loose the data in that track, because MIDI and audio are different types of data. If so, why not just quickly go to the next free MIDI or audio track to do what you want? I do not understand. You complain about something I would never think is half-implemented, in fact it really isn't. There are 128 MIDI and 24 audio tracks pre-set, all for your convenience. The fact you you don't get this doesn't mean Roland engineers were wrong

I like Chick's foot massage idea! Hmmm . . . Maybe Roland could program the Dynamic Pads to vibrate or something. I'll have our engineers get right on it! Come to think of it, they could probably set it up so that you CAN order pizza from the pads using the USB 2 connection. They might-as-well look into that while they're at it! Knowing musicians, that could be the selling point on the G that really blows the competition out of the water!!

BTW Agent Art, Congratulations on your 13000th post! =)
(Lucky 13000!)

.... order pizza (It has a built in ethernet card and TCP/IP). Not sure if it has 512-bit encryption for the SSL (credit card transactions) though.

Interesting thread though, keep it coming !!

Manish.

In Sonar,
-Whenever I choose the "Normal" template I get 2 Audio tracks and 2 MIDI tracks. I have to select an Audio track to record audio and a MIDI track to record MIDI.
-If I select, say a 16 MIDI track template and then need to record audio I have to insert an Audio Track. The same way the other way around.
- If I choose to open it without starting tracks I then have to insert the type of track I want to use.

Any of these processes takes more time than to scroll through the Fantom G tracks!

Sigh...

What's up with all these people who have no idea how modern technology works, get frustrated, and think that because something doesn't work the way they assume it to (naïvety and all), it MUST BE A BUG AND MUST BE FIXED IMMEDIATELY BY THE MANUFACTURER OMGWTFBBQ!!!111!!.

There's nothing wrong with the way the Fantom-G allocates tracks, especially within the confines of how part-based sequencers work. This doesn't mean I'm blindly defending Roland, much less that I'm some fanboy—It simply means I know what a bug (or poor implementation) is or isn't.

All your tracks have been pre-assigned. If you want track 2 to be audio, move an audio track there. It ain't rocket science.

This reminds me of that thread where someone didn't know how MIDI worked, and then got PISSED that MIDI tracks didn't have volume controls, completely oblivious that MIDI tracks, by definition, can't have volume controls. It's one thing to post "Hey guys, why don't the MIDI tracks have volume controls?" It's another thing entirely to say "OMG! Roland are insane that the G's MIDI tracks don't have volume controls!"

Normally, I wouldn't care. But the Fantom-G has legitimate issues that need to be addressed. This simply adds to the noise and if anything, causes the powers that be to look at this forum and think "Wow, the Fantomized guys have no idea what they're talking about. We shouldn't take them seriously."

Read up on part-based sequencing. There are a good half-dozen threads devoted to it.