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Sequencer/Performance problem

Sequencer/Performance problem

1 Feb 2004, 17:51
I have a patch assigned to Part 2 in Performance mode. I have the Effects set up correctly. When I play this patch in Patch mode I have no issues. When I am record the part in Performance mode after so many measure the patch no longer sounds. The midi is recording but no sound. After awhile it comes back again.

Does anyone know what causes this? I have scrutinized my patch in Edit mode many times and cannot seem to fiqure this one out.

Thanks

Stephanie Sante
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Re: Sequencer/Performance problem

1 Feb 2004, 18:01
What else is playing at the time Part 2 quits sounding? It may be that you've hit the polyphony limit. Before you play your sequence, go to the main menu and select the Part Information menu item. In the pop up screen that appears, rotate the dial until Voices appears at the top. Now play your sequence. This will show the number of "voices" in use in real time as you play your sequence.

If it is the polyphony, then you will have to do some re-sampling of tracks or use some of the other techniques described elsewhere on this forum to recover some polyphony.

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Re: Sequencer/Performance problem

1 Feb 2004, 18:08
Only Part 1 is playing when it quits sounding. I have reserved part one at 6 notes and part 2 at 16 notes. Part one is a mallet type sound and part 2 is a pad sound.

However the pad has a long release but I am never playing more than 1 note at a time so with the long release they could be about 3-4 notes polyphony going on.

The patch quits making sound while I am recording... Very strange.

I will re-record and try your idea of checking voices in real time. I would shocked if I hit the limit. I programmed both of these patches myself at 2 tones each.

I am trying to get this thing togeather for the compilation CD. I usually do not work with these type of limitations.

Stephanie Sante
Recording Artist
www.santemusic.com
Stephanie Sante
www.santemusic.com
(Exploring the Fantom Universe)

Re: Sequencer/Performance problem

1 Feb 2004, 18:15
Part Information..

It never exceeds 12 voices total between the two parts.

The notes just quite recording sound.

If I didn't know better I would think the modulation on the patch is fading the amplitude volume but I have checked.

Any other thoughts Bruiser?

Stephanie Sante
Recording Artist
www.santemusic.com
Stephanie Sante
www.santemusic.com
(Exploring the Fantom Universe)

Re: Sequencer/Performance problem

1 Feb 2004, 18:18
is there perhaps some control data that you recorded that is in some way changing the volume (real or apparent. i.e. could be the envelope)?

Whilst you are not running out of maximum polyphony (64 voices), are you exceeding the reserved parts you have set?

And have you taken stereo into account?
4 notes x 2 tones x L+R = 16.

Try uping the reserved part upto 24 or something and see if it goes away. At least a process of elemination should help you find the problem
Loz

Re: Sequencer/Performance problem

1 Feb 2004, 18:26
Lawrence,

Thanks for info. I will try up the reserve. For these patches I deliverate either to 2 different tones (mono) or 1 tone Stereo L + R. I try and maximise to retain polyphone.

I will up the reserve and try re-recording part 2.

I have checke the envelope setting numerous times. However when I play the sound in Patch mode in never stops making sound. So I don't think its a envelope setting.

This could be a reserve issue.

Maybe I am not understand the concept of reserved notes properly?

Stephanie Sante
Recording Artist
www.santemusic.com
Stephanie Sante
www.santemusic.com
(Exploring the Fantom Universe)

Fixed Interesting

1 Feb 2004, 18:36
I set the reserve to 0 for both part 1 and part 2. That seems to have fixed the issue.

Note: Part 1 is an Arp part, Part 2 is a pad

Not sure why this fixed the issue though.

Thoughts?

Stephanie Sante
Recording Artist
www.santemusic.com
Stephanie Sante
www.santemusic.com
(Exploring the Fantom Universe)

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