Fantom-S and Fantom-X

I know this has probably been asked but is the right card an

I know this has probably been asked but is the right card an

23 Jul 2007, 16:57
http://www.amazon.com/o/ASIN/B00006B9QM/ref=s9_asin_image_1/105-9177645-4317267?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=0C9Y68PDJ01BV0V42E6T&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=288448501&pf_rd_i=507846

http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-SDCFH-1024-901-CompactFlash-Retail-Package/dp/B0000CD0B7/ref=acc_glance_ce_ai_-2_2_tit/105-9177645-4317267

Re: I know this has probably been asked but is the right car

23 Jul 2007, 19:11
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The SanDisk CF products in your links (shown above) should work fine. I just bought a generic PCMCIA adapter from a local electronics store for $10. When I bought mine, I asked for the, "slowest, branded CF cards they had," since the Fantom can't take advantage of the higher speed cards available today anyway. I personally bought four Lexar 4GB Platinum II 60x cards (the slowest cards they had), and they work just fine (shown below). And, they happened to be on sale for only $39 each.
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The Fantom's display does show weird numbers for the increased CF capacity (see below), when inserting a 4GB card into the Fantom's PCMCIA slot, but it seems to recognize the increased capacity just fine. Some have reported that the Fantom has a "256 song" storage limit, regardless of actual storage capacity available. I tend to store a LOT more samples than I do songs, so running into the "256 song" limit per storage volume isn't an issue for me.

Some here also advise that buying smaller-capacity cards is a good file-management strategy (buying one card per song) and for many, that's probably a smart thing to do. But at least for me, bigger is better, since I NEVER load "all samples"—I just load the song I want to work on, and individually load the needed samples from the "sample list." Perhaps a bit more tedious, but this is what works for me and my particular workflow style.

So, depending on your workflow style, you may be better off with smaller, 512MB cards, or even 128MB cards, depending on the amount of sample recording you tend to do per song. This way, you can keep one card per song and use "load all samples" for the sake of convenience (one song—one card). The only problem is, it's getting darned hard to find the smaller-capacity cards anywhere these days (and they cost about as much as the bigger cards too!). Also, by the way, assuming your sample RAM is expanded to 512MB, you can't load anymore CF-stored samples than you have sample RAM to hold them anyway (plus it does take FOREVER load that much data from CF to sample RAM).


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To summarize, I would buy any name-brand CF card, at the slowest speed available (just so you don't waste money buying extra performance that the Fantom can't use anyway), and they should work with any standard PCMCIA CF adapter.

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Re: I know this has probably been asked but is the right car

24 Jul 2007, 09:32
So it doesn't matter what brand card or adapater i get does it. Can i get a sandisk card and a lexar adapter.

Thanx?

Re: I know this has probably been asked but is the right car

24 Jul 2007, 14:46
Doesn't matter.

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Re: I know this has probably been asked but is the right car

27 Jul 2007, 14:08
wow thats funny how the fantom is seeing the data on your 4gb card .

it apparently is seeing (4)1GB partitions or sections, since it sums it at a total of 400% free space of in your case 353.4% since you are using almost a half a gb already.

if it was able to allocate all 4gb at once it would simply show 100 and lower. same as it handles Ram and user space.

I have a Juno G myself, and only bought 1gb cards (2 of em) so dont know if the juno would respond in the same manner..

but at any rate.. thats interesting.

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Re: I know this has probably been asked but is the right car

29 Jul 2007, 05:53
That's a pretty savvy explanation, triple-x! Yeah, 1GB partitions or something. Well, it works great for me—I just keep writing to that CF card with new sh*t, as I record it, with no worries!

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savvy you say? LOL

29 Jul 2007, 12:42
ha ha, I cant help it, I fix computers for a living. lol

hey , if it works it works.

actually after thinking about this a little more..
it may not be what i originally said, but rather this...

the x is only meant to address 1gb of memory via the card slot (or is it 2GB) and labels that 100%. in this case it was able to address all 4gb, but summed the total as 400%.

i any case.. seeing as how you have all your very important data on here, this does actually worry me.

at any rate, if it were me that installed it I would of expected to see 100% for all 4gb's on the card.. seeing 400% would have made my head twist to the side like scooby doo when shaggy asked if he wanted a scooby snack.

I would at least call or email roland and run it by them for some reassurance, as opposed to having it fail and loosing your data and then calling and asking them why it happened.. ya know?

also , i dont really keep up with the fantom x and its sw version updates since i dont have one.. so maybe its possible that a newer version (out or yet to be release even) may fix this issue, by not only allowing the x to see the total amount of CF memory installed, but by also summing it with the correct percentage amount, that obviously being 100%.

final thought.. maybe they did it that way on purpose..
i mean 4gb at 100% would mean increments of 1gb at every 25% obviously which is actually a much broader rate at which to watch the amount of free space decrease..
at 400% for 4gb you can watch every 1gb per 100% decrease in detail, which would allow you to better gauge how large the samples you saved were in whatever period of time better, at a glance any way.
for instance (and im just guesstimating the math here)
guys with a 1gb card at 100% might grab a huge sample and look at the sample space left on the card and think holy shit! that sample knocked me down to 90% space left, where as your 4gb at 100% would only put your around 97.5% or 98% . seeing it as 400% would allow you to so see 390% left like you would now..
which gives you a more detailed view..

anyway.. at least check it out with roland unless some other x users can confirm it here..
have fun !

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•Yamaha MM6 • Korg TR Rack • Emu Mo Phatt
•Yamaha A4000 Sampler,128mb,8gb SCSI int HD
•Wavelab 5 • Cubase SX3
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•Yamaha MM6 • Korg TR Rack • Emu Mo Phatt
•Yamaha A4000 Sampler,128mb,8gb SCSI int HD
•Wavelab 5 • Cubase SX3

Re: I know this has probably been asked but is the right car

1 Aug 2007, 17:36
I bought the compact flash card above but it won't fit in this generic low budget adapter i bought. Did I get the wrong one. i nought a PCMCIA Type II adpater.

It looks like this one:

http://cgi.ebay.com/COMPACT-FLASH-CF-TYPE-I-II-CARD-TO-PCMCIA-BUS-ADAPTER_W0QQitemZ140143626997QQihZ004QQcategoryZ48545QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Re: I know this has probably been asked but is the right car

1 Aug 2007, 17:59
nevermind i had to kind of squeeze it.

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