It's a joke ??????

maybe since VC-2...

i hate ANY company that makes proclamations and then follows through HALF-WAY or NOT AT ALL...

i am happy with my V-Synth XT in general, and seems to be the best of the bunch of offerings from Roland, but the whole history of the VariOS product, and the lack of further VCard development, coupled with the lack of VC2 in the new synth (is that still so?) makes me wonder if corporate management cares about customers AT ALL after they become customers... Seems like a resounding NO.

Korg know what they're doing with the OASYS... it IS a PLATFORM, as they've touted it... look how the product has expanded in options since it was released...

Dysamoria the vc2 is built in to the GT....

Hey Gilesjuk, exactly what did you do to your XP computer to make it stripped down? Also what are the specs on the computer you are running? Lastly how many tracks can you play together with effects?
cheers
Ian

"Never waste venom on dead and fleeing things" - The mantra of the Cobra

I'm still happy with my Varios despite no available V cards and limited tweaks to the V Producer Engine. I get the impression the guys at Roland are keeping tight lipped about their future plans on PC cards and software development therefore I have no plans in selling my Varios. The V range and Varios in my opinion are still unique. It would be nice if Roland continued to update the drivers for all these products.

Under Vista and XP-64 I can using over 3GB of RAM

Hi,

Can the Varios be used without V-producer. In this I mean load samples onto a CF card and do all the editing stuff on the Varios? Also use the midi in and out so this gets round the USB driver and V-producer issue on Vista?

Would be interesting to know if this is possible. If not does it become a useless red brick then?

I doubt Roland will give in will they and sort out vista support.

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Hello!

It is possible to load and store samples directly to and from the CF card, but the files must be Variphrase encoded and the filename should not exceed 12 characters. Some editing can be done on the VariOS, but as far as I remember, it is tedious and limited in comparison to the V-producer.

It is possible to play the VC cards and virtual synths without the computer, too. However, editing is possible only with the VC2 card, which is designed to work without a computer editor.

Thanks for the info on this.

I did wake me up all this vista stuff though. In that I mean hardware/software setup. In the future I will not buy, if I can help it, hardware that needs software to run it because it's future is flawed really isn't it.

The whole VariOS thing has been a balls up from the start on Roland's side so best leave it for dead when I upgrade.

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Well, I am a little bit disappointed with this piece of gear, too. The software stuff is one thing. The sampler lacks some crucial features, and this is not going to be fixed, as well. Also, the memory is small and limited, which is a shame (even the old VP9000 sampler had an option of higher memory upgrade).

In practice it turns out that the marriage of hardware and software can get very annoying, when there is a need to edit projects on the fly and you do not have either the laptop or the VariOS rack with you. All software solution would definitely be superior in such a case.

Maybe the price I paid for that unit is justified by the D-50 and the vocoder. But if Roland really wants to say thanks to the people who bought that unit, they should create some new software instruments or issue a developer kit. An excellent solution would be a V-synth software for VariOS, which (according to Jim Stout from Roland) is theoretically possible. Finally, an ultimate offer from Roland could be some sort of option to upgrade to a newer product, such as the V-synth XT.

To say something positive about the product in the end, I would like to state that it is still a great tool for production of loop based music, and in good hands it could be a very creative instrument, if it only had a longer life and support...

The 'old' XP drivers and software does run just nicely in VISTA both for V-Synth and Fantom X.

Well, thats my experience anyhow just recently setting up a new VISTA computer.

Sorry any mac or linux fan for calling my vista-wormcan a computer...

K