Considering to buy Integra 7 . Question

I don't think it's possible for the integra7 to get updated with new waveforms. It's basically a rompler with SN synth capabilities.

Grunwaldt wrote:

I don't think it's possible for the integra7 to get updated with new waveforms. It's basically a rompler with SN synth capabilities.

Hi Grunwaldt,

Thanks for the feedback. I am under the impression that the PCM (Samples) are in RAM. but I might be wrong, If they are in a ROM type memory then Yes, It might not be possible to add any additional samples to the Integra 7, but If they are in a RAM type memory, I don't see any problem for Roland to add more Samples in the future.

I just downloaded the manuals, and other pdf Documents from the Roland site. I will look closer into this, and see what I find.

Oh.. If you use an Integra 7, How do you like it so far ?

Cheers,
Muziksculp

Hi Muziksculp and welcome,

I like the integra7 pretty much, I mainly use it for the PCMS engine. It's not a sampler ie, it doesn't allow you in ANY way to import custom samples, everything is hardcoded in the hardware. Roland will not release new waveforms for it as it is technically impossible. In any case, it's a good ROMpler, literally thousands of samples built-in.


Sergi

Grunwaldt wrote:

Hi Muziksculp and welcome,

I like the integra7 pretty much, I mainly use it for the PCMS engine. It's not a sampler ie, it doesn't allow you in ANY way to import custom samples, everything is hardcoded in the hardware. Roland will not release new waveforms for it as it is technically impossible. In any case, it's a good ROMpler, literally thousands of samples built-in.


Sergi

Hi Grunwaldt,

Thanks again for the helpful feedback.

So.. I see, it is a pure ROMpler. with no capabilities of adding more samples/PCMs , which is not a big issue, but it would have been so cool if Roland had designed it with the ability to load more samples, which would have made it even more versatile, and future proofed it even further. I guess I can live with this limitation, given the large amount of PCMs that it ships with. and having a Windows (VST-Editor) was one of the key reasons I'm now seriously looking into buying an Integra 7.

Also the fact that one can use the onboard USB2 port on the Integra 7 for both midi and Audio is pretty cool.

Cheers,
Muziksculp

muziksculp wrote:

Grunwaldt wrote:

Hi Muziksculp and welcome,

I like the integra7 pretty much, I mainly use it for the PCMS engine. It's not a sampler ie, it doesn't allow you in ANY way to import custom samples, everything is hardcoded in the hardware. Roland will not release new waveforms for it as it is technically impossible. In any case, it's a good ROMpler, literally thousands of samples built-in.


Sergi

Hi Grunwaldt,

Thanks again for the helpful feedback.

So.. I see, it is a pure ROMpler. with no capabilities of adding more samples/PCMs , which is not a big issue, but it would have been so cool if Roland had designed it with the ability to load more samples, which would have made it even more versatile, and future proofed it even further. I guess I can live with this limitation, given the large amount of PCMs that it ships with. and having a Windows (VST-Editor) was one of the key reasons I'm now seriously looking into buying an Integra 7.

Also the fact that one can use the onboard USB2 port on the Integra 7 for both midi and Audio is pretty cool.

Cheers,
Muziksculp

This may be so but you can have L/R Stereo partials.
Each with their own TVA, TVF, Multimode Filter, LFO's Step LFO, analog feel parameters, FXM (basically amplitude / cross modulation) + MFX + Mod LFO and so on so there is a load of parameter control enough to turn it into a very complex synthesizer with enough raw waveform data to keep you busy for years, add on top of the the SN-S (Virtual Analog Engine - which does PWM, Sync + Ring Modulation), the SN-A (Supernatural Acoustic) and the Per part MFX and you can layer up some ridiculously complex patches from scratch.
I just view mine as a massive digital subtractive synthesizer with more raw waveforms than could probably find time to map and multisample myself anyway.
You can get quite "out there" on the sound design front with what is already available, so i would sweat that detail too much and there is nothing stopping you layering parts on the same Midi Channel or with either a separate Hard or Soft sampler that may be with your DAW anyway.

Hi Venn Diagram,

Yes, for sound design, and synthesis the Integra 7 delivers a lot of creative sound design options, no doubt about that. But.. for Orchestral Sounds, I still feel Roland could have done much better.

I wonder why Roland did not design some NEW Orchestral PCM sounds for the Integra 7, instead of using a decade or more old samples. They have less memory limitations these days than they did in the 90's. Maybe it is a cost issue, or maybe they were just too lazy to produce a totally new, and much better sounding Orchestral PCM based sound set for it.

Anyways... I'm still evaluating it, and am still undecided about buying it. I wish there were other competing sound module that I could consider, but unfortunately the Integra 7 seems to be the King of Sound Modules at this time, then again... It's not perfect for my needs (but .. it could have been).

Cheers,
Muziksculp

Hi Muziksculp,
My guess would be due to the fact that you have the SN-A engine with full use of motional surround and the ability to mix the SN-A instruments within a sound field much like you would an actual orchestra.
So you don't just have the PCM sound sets from the SRX boards at your fingertips.
There are some exceptionally good expressive instruments within the SN-A (Supernatural Acoustic Sound sets) that you just don't seem to get with the standard PCM SRX Boards (though they are still highly usable).
The ability to layer SN-A, SN-S & PCM based parts on the same midi channel more than makes up for the lack of a larger rom waveform set for me. If I am after larger sample sets iI am more inclined to go towards the ESX24 in Logic.
I fully understand that others needs are quite different to mine.
My advice would be to explore the SN-A sound sets first in person and see if you feel they are adequate for your needs.
Much of what I do is on a NuJazz/Future Jazz tip and vibe with elements of Detroit techno and idm thrown in with a huge dollop of ambience so my requirements for quality acoustic emulations largely fall in the "solo instrument category" - flutes, trumpet, muted trumpet, upright bass, clarinet and the like which the SN-A
engine covers admirably.

Hi,

I finally decided to buy the Integra 7. I should have it by the end of next week.

Thanks for all the feedback, I'm sure it will be a very useful sound module in my studio.

Cheers,
Muziksculp

Awesome, Sculptor!

You won't regret it.

Welcome to the family, mate.

Monkey Man wrote:

Awesome, Sculptor!

You won't regret it.

Welcome to the family, mate.

Hi,

Thanks Monkey Man. It should arrive later today !

Cheers,
Muziksculp

Have fun!

JeffB63 wrote:

Have fun!

Thanks.

I will post my first impression, and eventually a bit of music done with the Integra 7 once I get familiar with it.

Cheers,
Muziksculp

muziksculp wrote:

JeffB63 wrote:

Have fun!

Thanks.

I will post my first impression, and eventually a bit of music done with the Integra 7 once I get familiar with it.

Cheers,
Muziksculp

Good choice!! welcome to the i-7 family muziksculp!!!

Hi, and Many Thanks.

Hahaha.. and it just arrived !