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Changing a Fantom-G8 for a V-Synth GT

Changing a Fantom-G8 for a V-Synth GT

26 Dec 2010, 09:41
Hi. I`m just crazy about this keyboard (V-Synth GT) and now I have a Fantom-G8 (wich I also love!). The problem is that I can only have one of them and since the Fantom-G it`s abandoned for a while I`m thinking of changing it for a V-Synth GT. But when I really think about it, I realize that the V-Synth GT it`s almost at the end of it`s life. Is it possible that Roland will ever release a new V-Synth? I think that the Fantom-G will be replaced in 2012 but I can`t be sure of it.
I would like if someone could put the pros and cons here (I`m sorry, I know that I should research about it, but I`m at med school and time it`s a problem for me).
And before anyone ask, I`m from Brazil, so I think that trading equipment is out of question (unless someone from Brazil is interested!!)
Thanks a lot!

Re: Changing a Fantom-G8 for a V-Synth GT

26 Dec 2010, 17:07
Honestly i feel your best option is to keep the G and get a V-Synth XT this is what i have and its much more flexible setup and you get 3 in 1 synths including the D50.

I suppose also since its the G8 you got... you can probably downgrade to the G6 and gain a little cash in the process to help your purchase if you need the cash.



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Re: Changing a Fantom-G8 for a V-Synth GT

26 Dec 2010, 18:42
Olá IgorCristo,
Completely agree with Quinnx !! but all depends on what you really up to...

A litte comparison between the two "beasts", to help you to decide (stating only the differences):

**V-Synth GT (Keyboard) Advantages**
- 61 Keys with Velocity and Channel Aftertouch
- Dual Core (2 Tones per Patch - Upper/Lower)
- 16 Zones on each Tone (Upper/Lower)
- 1x Multistep Modulator per Tone (Upper/Lower)
- AP-Synthesis (38 Waveforms, 5x Phrase Models - Violin, Erhu, Sax, Flute, Multifade)
- Vocal Designer can be used at the same time as the normal tones (opposed to the XT where the Vocal Designer can only be accessed from the main menu, reinitializing the XT)
- Wave Memory 64 Mb (opposed to 50Mb on the XT)
- External Storage= USB Flash Drive (opposed to CF Card + PCMCIA Adapter on the XT)
- Pitch Bend/Modulation lever and D-Beam and Dedicated Time-Trip Pad controllers (the XT has only a Time-Trip PAD accessible by pressing the CTRL Key on the front panel in Patch Play mode). However the Pitch-bend/Modulation function could be done by the MIDI Keyboard Controller PB/M. So, for me only the D-Beam is missing...

**V-Synth XT (Rack Mount) Advantages**
- D-50 emulation - You get the legendary D-50 - stunning sounds!!
- 16 MIDI Channels (Opposed to 1 on the GT). This will turn the XT on a MultiPart Sound Module, with some limited Polyphony, but still very usable up to 3 or even 4 simultaneous Patches being controlled externally (I use this feature all the time myself).
- The Price.... Around USD $1200 opposed to the USD $3000 for the GT (values for New boards)

Saudações
Paulo
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PauloF

Re: Changing a Fantom-G8 for a V-Synth GT

26 Dec 2010, 20:28
I owned the GT for a short time after having the xt and v2 vsynth..
and the killer for me of the GT was the fact that you could not copy OSC..
so lets say your developing a patch and you set osc1 and now you want to copy osc1 to osc2 (not available)??
importing wavs and patches (not available)
and a few other things
all this is available on the original V and the XT so i dropped the GT as soon as i got it...
since then they released V2 firmware and i dont know if they addressed these failings and even if they did.....
for price and functionality the XT wins..
okay you cant layer VC2 vocoder and a tone.. but if you still have the G you can layer it and the XT which is the same if not better result..
and with the combination of the 2 its a much better power house than the GT alone.



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Re: Changing a Fantom-G8 for a V-Synth GT

26 Dec 2010, 22:57
Yep,
A lot of features and functionalities were missing on the original GT, but a lot was introduced with the V 2.00. Check this out.

**Newly added functions**
- Import function (Patch/Tone/Wave)
- Copy function (Patch/Tone)
- Delete function (Patch/Tone)
- Chromatic-scale pitch-bender function
- Arpeggio Template function
- Arpeggio function: Whole note or half note of grid
- Multi Step Modulator function: Template Graph Pattern
- Multi Step Modulator function: Copy Graph Pattern
- Multi Step Modulator: Whole note or half note of grid
- Upper/Lower Tone Receive Switch function
- Tap Tempo function
- Arpeggio Note MIDI Out Switch function
- Clean Project function
- SW1 and SW2 at Matrix Control source
- Three Factory Reset choices: Version 2, Version 1, GT_Analog
- Delete function (Wallpaper)
- Category Display at Patch/Tone
- USB Storage Screen function: Mount inserted USB memory to computer

**Enhancements**
- Cutting-edge sounds: Patch/Tone, Wave
- Vocal Designer
- Effects: 22 tone effects and 5 reverbs
- High-resolution knob response and tonal control
- Enhanced short-cuts, jump function
- Faster power-up
- Expanded USB functionality

*For more details, refer to the “V-Synth GT Version 2 Supplementary Manual and V-Synth GT Version 2 Sound List" (PDF file) available on the Owner’s Manual page.
Make Music and be Happy !!
PauloF

Re: Changing a Fantom-G8 for a V-Synth GT

27 Dec 2010, 10:14
Prices here in Brazil
Fantom-G6: U$4120
V-Synth XT: U$2000
V-Synth GT: U$ 4450
This is why I can`t have a XT. Period. I have thought about it before posting here.
I`d like to thank you guys for answering and helping me. Here everything is just too expensive, and I don`t want to loose money and be stuck with this giant G. I think that the V-Synth GT will be only repleceable with a new V-Synth. If not this will be mine forever! I think that a Rompler would not be ideal for me. I wanna know if I`ll be happy with the V-Synth GT as a synth (here I can`t test it in a store... these keyboards are only available as request).
Thanks for your help!!

Re: Changing a Fantom-G8 for a V-Synth GT

27 Dec 2010, 11:28
okay thats expensive so why dont you use ebay..
its a much better investment to get used gear than buying new
it hold its value alot better.



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Re: Changing a Fantom-G8 for a V-Synth GT

27 Dec 2010, 15:26
V-Synth GT is a better choice if you're in need of a wider range of synthesizer sounds and textures than what the Fantom-G can offer. And it's definitely a better choice than the XT if you want to have all the controls within your hands.

Re: Changing a Fantom-G8 for a V-Synth GT

27 Dec 2010, 16:03
@Quinx
The Ebay is not an option, I'll pay all the taxes and without knowing if it'll actually come. There are few units in Ebay so I think I'll buy it here in Brazil. I'm almost certain that I'll change from the G8, just wanna know the downsides of doing this.

@Artemiy
Is there something that I'll miss a lot that I have in the G that I can't do with the V-Synth GT and a DAW??
I wanna know what will I miss! I rarely play live, and when I do I don't use lots of real sounds, except organs and strings, wich I beleave I can make with the V-Synth GT right?

Thank you guys for the support!

Re: Changing a Fantom-G8 for a V-Synth GT

27 Dec 2010, 17:01
You're going to miss natural acoustic sounds (if you need them), and maybe polyphony in some cases when you want really huge pads with long release times. Otherwise, if I could have just one hardware synth, that would be the V-Synth or V-Synth GT. That's the only one that has stayed in my studio for over 6 years, all others came and went away...

Re: Changing a Fantom-G8 for a V-Synth GT

27 Dec 2010, 20:09
@Artemiy,
Including the FG ??? ;-)
Make Music and be Happy !!
PauloF

Re: Changing a Fantom-G8 for a V-Synth GT

27 Dec 2010, 21:41
Thanks a lot Artemiy. I think that`s what I need to know... I think the V-Synth GT will be an excelent hardware for me. The acoustic natural sounds I`ll cover with VST libraries and my MacBook =) .
If someone has anything else to say, just say it!! Thank you guys for the support once again.

Re: Changing a Fantom-G8 for a V-Synth GT

28 Dec 2010, 03:43
Paulo:

No, the G is here, I have it since 2008, but I have the V-Synth since 2004!

Igor:

Yes, this setup is pretty much perfect. Mac + V-Synth... Uhmmmmmm.... :-)

Re: Changing a Fantom-G8 for a V-Synth GT

25 Mar 2011, 19:40
I think I've made it! I'm dealing my G8 plus aprox U$500,00 for a new V-Synth GT! Closed inside the BOX!!!!!
I'm so happy!! Can't describe it with words!
I think I'll have till the end of april... when I get it I'll post here again.
Thanks for the help you gave me! I'm sure this will end my need to buy new synth stuff, at least hardware.

Re: Changing a Fantom-G8 for a V-Synth GT

26 Mar 2011, 07:52
IgorCristo wrote:
I think I've made it! I'm dealing my G8 plus aprox U$500,00 for a new V-Synth GT! Closed inside the BOX!!!!!
I'm so happy!! Can't describe it with words!
I think I'll have till the end of april... when I get it I'll post here again.
Thanks for the help you gave me! I'm sure this will end my need to buy new synth stuff, at least hardware.
Oi Igor,
If someone would ask me which one I would buy if I could...I would say BOTH :-), but between the FG and the V-Synth GT, definetely the V-Synth GT (even having an XT).

Enjoy your new V-Synth GT !!!
Make Music and be Happy !!
PauloF

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