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Live Mode for live playing

Live Mode for live playing

21 Jul 2010, 16:03
The 8 sliders are NOT shall we say, as intuitive, or user friendly, or up to the volume sliders of my previous Roland a jv 1000 G800 exp 80
Nor of other keyboards I have tried.

Describing things is difficult for me... but here is a quick description

It seems a few things are going on
1. you have to engage the slider in an extreme northerly or upward direction ( fully up or even fully down ) before you can successfully "get control" of the midi volume of a particular MIDI layer . I haven't played with it enough to know if it has anything to do with upward or downward sweep of the midi pot, but whatever it is, I do not like it. Why? I want "instant" volume changes, just like a "mixer" on many keyboards. I do not want to have to reset the darn vol pot everytime I want to play softer or louder. And a pedal is only for overall volume, not individual parts.

If volume is at 95, to increase it to 100, you first have to fiddle with it. You might have to move slider fully to where 128 is, THEN move back down to "catch" the present 95 volume.. finally moving it to 100. I move certain layers constantly- this is not acceptable.

I play left hand bass, and I use a few layers in the right hand ( split )
In the past, I just moved the slider and got instant response.
Now, that does not SEEM work. Is there a workaround??

2. I think there is inconsistency with the above #1- sometimes this seems true, other times not.

For live playing, this is a major drag.

Any helpful hints?
Thanks

Thank you

Re: Live Mode for live playing

22 Jul 2010, 09:00
Thank you for that.

I am exhausted from last nights gig; which involved using 2 keyboards . I somehow jammed them along with a third 88 keyboard ( which remained inside car ) plus to eons, etc etc into a small suzuki car!!
The Fantom is still in the car!!

A friend of mine told me this about the above issue.

He said prior to the latest update ( 1.5 ) his G6 did NOT have this issue that I am writing about.
So putting your suggestion together with his; I conclude that the update defaults to this, for me anyway, illogical setup.

Can you venture a guess as to why a user would want the G6 behaving this way? I am curious.
I will follow your suggestion shortly. Thank you very much.

Re: Live Mode for live playing

22 Jul 2010, 09:41
Hi Sleeping.

I think the issue is that each LIVE set has it's own particular slider settings and because of this, in DIRECT mode, any touch of a particular slider will 'jump' the slider setting to a new value; not good if a volume is low and your slider is set high, for instance! Even an accidental bump could spell disaster!

The advantage to 'CATCH' mode is that one doesn't have to worry about unwanted instant data changes because you can 'latch' to a value and then make the change more gradual. The only way to make 'CATCH" mode unneccesary would be to have motorized faders!

I personally like the fact that the red outline shows where the physical fader is positioned and the yellow displays the 'soft' data value. The data is also nicely displayed on the TEMPO/VALUE screen. It's actually great that Roland included this feature with the Fantom, or there would be alot of complaints. =)

Cheers!
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