Fantom-G

Opening the Wishlist for future OS

Re: Opening the Wishlist for future OS

9 Jul 2008, 05:36
I just got my Fantom G..and no I didn't read the manual because I never read manuals....

But...is it me or there is no SAMPLE PREVIEW function when in the CHOP menu. So when I am using the CURSOR WHEEL to adjust the CURRENT ADDRESS in order to add a chop point...there is no way to preview the CURRENT ADDRESS.

So I need a function where I can preview the sample from the CURRENT ADDRESS in the CHOP menu.
Weapons of Mass Destruction: Nuendo 4, MPC 5K, Fantom G

Re: Opening the Wishlist for future OS

13 Jul 2008, 13:14
It would be nice to have the option to crossfade loop points like the Korg M3 when sampling. It is otherwise nearly impossible to make decent multisamples.
Roland Fantom G6 (2), G7, VK-8M
Korg M50, CX3

Re: Opening the Wishlist for future OS

13 Jul 2008, 16:45
Everything on my wishlist involves with improving the sampler.

1) More than 16 cops with sample preview before chopping
2) Chopped samples playable from keys within the Chop menu
3) Chop sample sent to a multi-sampled patch option
4) Sample editing: Extract, delete, silence, bit/sample rate converter, stereo sample to mono convert and vice versa
5) Undo button in the sample editing menus, with at least one level of undo
6) Load or delete multiple samples in one pass
7) Compatibility with Akai MPC and S series, MV, etc files
8) Edit and playback samples directly from USB flash
9) Non-destructive chopping - let chopped samples start/end points overlap
Weapons of Mass Destruction: Nuendo 4, MPC 5K, Fantom G

Re: Opening the Wishlist for future OS

14 Jul 2008, 12:02
An onboard, or arx expansion for organs, which allow you to use the new sliders as a tonewheel organ?

A VA synth expansion?

Importing fantom x files?

Re: Opening the Wishlist for future OS

14 Jul 2008, 14:19
> An onboard, or arx expansion for organs, which allow you to use the new sliders as a tonewheel organ?

> A VA synth expansion?

Those would also be my top 2 priorities. Roland, however, will likely release a piano card. :(
Roland Fantom G6 (2), G7, VK-8M
Korg M50, CX3

Re: Opening the Wishlist for future OS

14 Jul 2008, 16:54
I agree that an ARX Organ card with ability to incorporate the eight sliders plus "1" Software toggle switch to include a ninth drawbar would be very welcome. A VA card would be a VERY exciting prospect as well. As far as Roland releasing a Piano ARX card; that is a possibility but not essential in my opinion. Although, I would most likely buy it if they did make an ARX Piano card.

One way Roland could circumvent having to make an ARX Piano card is to do something similar to what Korg did with the M3 i.e. they gave M3 owners 512 new Combi's as a free download. Depending on how generous Roland and company are willing to be to Fantom G owners, they might be up to giving their Fantom G customers access to "the rest" of THE BEST of the SRX expansion card series patches. :) I'm sure 512 of the "rest of the best" SRX series patches as a free download would be suitable in everybodies eyes and would be an outstanding way for Roland to further enhance their customer rapport with their consumer base; and not only in the eyes of Roland Fantom G owners, but in the eyes of product owners of Roland's competitors; when in fact they see Roland extend a token benefit to Roland's customer base.

I will say it again. Customer "support" is BY FAR and away the best insurance a company can have to "insure" their company stays afloat and prospers, especially in this volatile global economic downturn where more and more the distinguishing characteristic of a thriving company is in the way that company distinguishes itself by setting itself apart from "the rest of the pack" ;) - doing little things for their customers that speaks volumes about them as a company, and also establishes them as esteemed and viewed favorably in the eyes of consumers worldwide. :)

When OS 1.10 was released for the Fantom G it really went a llooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnggggggggggggggggggggggg way in establishing a vital connection between Roland's customer base and Roland themselves. :) Keep it up Roland dudes!! :) We eagarly look forward with anticipation to the next OS firmware update for the Fantom G from Roland headquarters in Japan! ありがとうございました :)

Re: Opening the Wishlist for future OS

14 Jul 2008, 17:54
> I'm sure 512 of the "rest of the best" SRX series patches as a free download would be suitable in everybodies eyes

Well, without the SRX boards (which contain the waveforms), those patches would be worthless.

Korg gave M3 owners 512 new patches that took advantage of existing (ROM) waveforms.
Roland Fantom G6 (2), G7, VK-8M
Korg M50, CX3

Re: Opening the Wishlist for future OS

14 Jul 2008, 22:46
Well, without the SRX boards (which contain the waveforms), those patches would be worthless.

Korg gave M3 owners 512 new patches that took advantage of existing (ROM) waveforms.
Regarding your first statement, the Fantom G already has a lot of SRX patches included in the WAV ROM as we all know and now the only available way to add more SRX patches (waveforms) would either be for Roland to produce a special ARX card crammed with another 128 to 256 MB of SRX WAV ROM data, and for them to hopefully sell it to Fantom G owners at a 'special' price, OR to make the additional 512 SRX patches (waveforms) available through a specially priced USB drive sold exclusively through Roland, and could only be accessed except by way of the Fantom G's USB interface.

>> I see what you're saying about Korg. If the SRX patches (waveforms) were available as a download (either free or through cost) there could be the possibility and tendency of foul play (illegal copying) and piracy, etc. Korg avoided that scenario by requiring users to install the 512 combi's on the M3 by way of an OS update.

So an SRX ARX card would be one way, or as I said, through a secure method using a USB drive that could only be accessed by a Fantom G and no other way. I'm not sure if an iLok method could be utilized this way or not.

OTOH, if Roland wanted to give the USB drive full of SRX waveforms away free, I wouldn't try and stop them. :) I realize the hope of "free" SRX waveforms may have been a little too optimistic on my part but it doesn't hurt to try, right? ;) Korg found a way, and indeed, I applaud them for their "free" handout to M3 owners. ;)

An SRX ARX card on the other hand would no doubt cost a pretty penny. But I bet many Fantom G owners would cough up the cash if they knew they'd be getting 512 best of the - "rest of the best" SRX sounds on it that haven't already been included currently on the Fantom G. If they were able to offer the SRX ARX card at a special discount price to Fantom G owners, that would be better yet.

I know, I know.. I must be dreaming right? :D ...We'll have to wait and see whether the dream turns into reality or not. If it doesn't then I guess we can chalk it up as a bad nightmare eh? :D

Re: Opening the Wishlist for future OS

15 Jul 2008, 02:54
Yup. Dreaming, keysme. I don't see anything in Roland's interests to provide any incentive for them to do this for its customers (other than enhancing existing customers' brand loyalty). I give up. No Sonic Cell, or Fantom-XR for me . . I've finally resolved to buying a used Fantom-X6, just to "get back" all of my X and SRX sounds.

Now, I know I sound like a broken record (er, scratched CD?), but . . .

But, Roland, PLEASE!!! If you would only fix this ONE thing . . .

PLEASE PUT BACK "MONITOR SEND" SO SKIPBACK SAMPLING WON'T "HEAR" YOUR PRE-RECORDED TRACKS!

Dear Roland Fantom-G Product Managers:

Please consider re-including a true "monitor send" routing option in the audio tracks' output options, in addition to 'A,' 'B,' and "record off." The objective is to be able to use SKIPBACK SAMPLING while auditioning all other pre-recorded tracks, where skipback sampling hears ONLY the actively recorded audio track (via an external input or re-sampling input). This invaluable feature, which was present on the Fantom-X, I find indispensible, and allows you to record an infinite number of takes, while STILL auditioning all or some of your other pre-recorded tracks, until you get it "right."

Since I no longer have this ability on my new Fantom-G8, I am now forced to record ALL of my lead guitar tracks with ONLY a click track!!!!! VERY difficult to play along with the "vibe" of your music with only the click track to guide and "inspire" you!!!!!

If Roland only fixed this ONE thing, I would be happy!

Re: Opening the Wishlist for future OS

15 Jul 2008, 06:54
>> Regarding your first statement, the Fantom G already has a lot of SRX patches included in the WAV ROM as we all know and now the only available way to add more SRX patches (waveforms) would either be for Roland to produce a special ARX card crammed with another 128 to 256 MB of SRX WAV ROM data, and for them to hopefully sell it to Fantom G owners at a 'special' price, OR to make the additional 512 SRX patches (waveforms) available through a specially priced USB drive sold exclusively through Roland, and could only be accessed except by way of the Fantom G's USB interface.
> I see what you're saying about Korg. If the SRX patches (waveforms) were available as a download (either free or through cost) there could be the possibility and tendency of foul play (illegal copying) and piracy, etc. Korg avoided that scenario by requiring users to install the 512 combi's on the M3 by way of an OS update. <<

I think people keep missing the point about the extra 512 M3 patches (they weren't combis). These used the stock wave ROM...there's no new wave ROM and nothing to pirate here. Korg gave these patches away freely. The reason they dropped them into an OS update was so that they'd be there when a factory reset was performed on the M3.
Roland Fantom G6 (2), G7, VK-8M
Korg M50, CX3

Re: Opening the Wishlist for future OS

17 Jul 2008, 03:30
I agree with Bill. As much as we may want our old SRX sounds back, I think we've had our fill of recycled SR-JV80 sounds anyway. I HIGHLY doubt there will be any sort of ARX-hosted, "SRX product" coming from Roland . . . EVER. In fact, I would bet money on it. ARX is a new co-processing technology, not just merely a new form factor for storing more waveforms. The G is a different machine from our old beloved X, and we just have to get used to that fact. I have. I've realized that the ONLY way I'll be really be over my Fantom-X/SRX loss-anxiety, is to buy a used Fantom-X6.

P.S. Dear Roland: PLEASE FIX THE SKIPBACK SAMPLING ISSUE!

Re: Opening the Wishlist for future OS

21 Jul 2008, 17:41
hi there,

i added a g6 to my setup a month ago and i love it!


the only thing i´m missing is an undo function in the sequencer and programmable arpeggios.
i used to work with my juno g a lot and especially the arpeggios were a lot of fun to play with. the arps on the fantom g are booooorrrrrriiiiiiinnnnnnnnngggg!

i really hope roland will add these features with the next OS.


besides that: i´m 100% satisfied with my purchase.



thats all for the moment.

peace

Re: Opening the Wishlist for future OS

22 Jul 2008, 08:44
AgaToad
If you have a ver1.10 Fantom G , the UNDO is already there.

Re: Opening the Wishlist for future OS

22 Jul 2008, 12:11
Yes, press MENU>Undo. Also try SHIFT+UNDO.

I hope Roland places it elsewhere in the future (in the F1-F8 bar in Song Mode + 2nd functions for the F keys with SHIFT).

Or then maybe Roland is planning for systemwide undo fuctions because it is in the menu??
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