srjv80 to SRX patches

here is a fantom editor file. It is the first patch on the list from the previous attachment. the patch is "prologue"

I'll try again.!

I have added a midi file of the patch as well

Roger, I had the file you sent (124085-srjv04paTest.zip) read by my Fantom Librarian Software and downloaded to the USER bank. I did manage to get the Prologue sound, which suggests that the problem is not my Librarian.

Upon trying to download another patch (number 16, called 80s Oberheim or something like that) it did not work out. This patch in my fantom has tones 1 and 2 switched, and upon substituting the waves source from "sample" to "expansion" both tones ended up using "compressed Piano ff" and sounding like a piano, not like an Oberheim (quite understandably BTW).

For the record, I only have two SRX expansion cards and SRX-07 is in slot A.

Some of them didn't work for me either, about 1 in 10.

Also I have no idea if they sound as they are supposed to sound as I am fairly new to synths.

I read somewhere that some people had to mess about with some of the patches and search for the correct waveforms as they don't all match the SRJV80 waveforms. I haven't tried this. I just loaded patches edited them and saved them to my card if I liked them or just moved on to the next patch.

When I did this I was really just looking for B3 and Rhodes sounds so I only saved them.

Ideally I would like to go through them all and save them as SVD's but when I get around to this I don't know!

The patches I got from SR JV 80 in my SonicCell is and they work as on my JD 990

Jupiter Lead
CS Lead
TronStrg ENS
Tron Str Dry
Rotary Tron 1
Rotary Tron 2
Smooth TRon
Smooth Tron 2
Slow Tron
Symphonic Tron
Moody Tron
Tron Orch
Tron Choir
Slow Choir
Retroactive
Space Tron
Prologue
Eastern Tempel
JX 3P Polaris
Big Pad Sweep
Big LFO Sweep
CS sixty BPF
CS Strings
CS Saw Pad
MKS 80 Sprang
2600 Tri Bell
Soft OB Pad
System 700 Bass 1
System 700 Bass 2
MKS 80 Vortex
Earthquake
OB 2 voice
2600 Reso Bass
OB synthy
80s OBXa
OBJX Voxpad
OBig poly
Rhapsody Strings
VP 330 Tutti
Classic Lead
and Analog Drum kit

When I loaded Prologue in soniccell and the only thing has too is change wavegroup to EXP.
I tell you from Soniccell that the waveforms in Prologue is
Osc 1 Wave Bank: A Wave.no 576 OBXP strings lp on
Osc 2 Wave Bank: A Wave.no 576 OBXP strings lp on
Osc 3 Wave Bank: A Wave.no 595 Blown off
Osc 4 Wave Bank: A Wave.no 576 OBXP Strings lp on

Roland might know the problem when they made SonicCell because 10 out of 10 works of patches and drum kits(and that take some time).

I am still stuck, no success in converting my SRX-07 Vintage patches into the old SRJV Vintage patches.

More than anything else, I'm obsessed about retrieving at least "OB synthy" and "80s OBXa", which are the ones I need most. In case anyone ever gets them into their Fantom Xs please let me know how did you get them!

I just wrote Roland Canada (I live in Ottawa) complaining about the impossibility of converting the bSRX-07 patches into SRJV 04 and 08 as advertised in the SRX-07 box.

I am not holding my breath on it, but in case they answer and actually say anything conductive to a solution I'll let everybody here know about it.

Í just received Roland's answer. They are not helping at all. Unless someone else finds a way to convert the patches, we'll remain where we are. Here is their answer:

Greetings / Salutations!,

The data reproduction for the SR-JV Series cards are only available to certain Roland products (listed below, from an excerpt from the SRX-07 Owner's Manual).

Due to advancements in synthesis technology and file structure, the Fantom-X Series are not among the Roland Products that can directly reproduce the original SR-JV Series patchs. Keep in mind that the "Fantom" listed in the products below refers to the original Fantom FA-76, released in 2001 (which had both SR-JV and SRX Series expansion slots).

Most of the original SR-JV patches do exist in the SRX patch list (Patch List for Fantom Series keyboards are listed on page 6 of the SRX-07 Ultimate Keys Owner's Manual). Some patches may sound slightly different on more recent keyboards and synthesizers due to advancement in the effects engines.

Excerpt from page 19 of the most recent SRX-07 Ultimate Keys Owner's Manual (available for download at www.roland.com:

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About the Included CD-ROM

The included CD-ROM features:
. System update programs compatible with new-format
SRX expansion boards (for Fantom, XV-5080, XV-3080,
XV-88, and RD-700)

. Data Reproducing the SR-JV's Original Patches and
Rhythm Sets (Compatible models: Fantom, XV-5080,
XV-5050, XV-3080, XV-88, XV-2020)

. SRX-01-09 demo songs

. BPM Conversion Table
For more detailed information on each file, refer to
index_e.html on the CD-ROM.
------------------------

Best Regards / Sincèrement vôtre,
Roland Canada

Try these see Attached zip file

Midi files of the 2 patches and .fax files of the 2 patches.

On my X6 the 80s OBxa patch uses tone waves 576 OBXP Str Lp and 574 OBXP Str B

OB Synthy uses 564 OB Str 2A and 562 OB Str 1B

Roger, you are an angel. The patches are great, very close to what they sounded like on my old XP-30. Thank you so very much!

I wonder how did you manage to get it. Was it somehow imported from the SRX-07 CD? Can you describe how you did it for these Obie patches? I don't mind if it is complicated, I can even edit SysEx, and I'd go to hell to retrieve those SR-JV patches.

Glad they worked.

I just imported them as described earlier.

Copied the exe file from Cd, unzipped to a folder on the PC, extracted the zip file to get the midi file

Imported the smf into librarian, double clicked the patch so it appeared as user001 in the fantom. Clicked Patch edit, changed the wave from smpl to SRX and then clicked write to save the patch.

To create the midi file I loaded the patch into the editor and then exported it as smf

This works for me 9 out of 10 times and I cant understand why it doesnt work for you

Roger

Roger, I did what you described, and everything seems to run smoothly until I get the MIDI files (SRJV04PA and SRJV04PB) and try to open them in my Fantom X Librarian. My librarian brings them up named "INIT PATCH". All of the patches have the same name and all sound like a silly piano. That suggests one of two things:

1) either the MIDI files I'm getting from my SRX-07 do not contain the data they should contain, or

2) For some reason my Fantom X Librarian is not capable of opening these files.

In order to try and screen out the cause of my problem, plase answer this question: When you open the .smf files in your librarian, do all patches show up indistinctively as "INIT PATCH" or do they show up in the Librarian already with their SRJV names ("Prologue", "EasternTempl", etc...)?

Another way to screen out the problem would be you sending me the zipped files (SRJV04PA and SRJV04PB) you are getting the patches from.

Thanks for helping again.

roger,

just downloaded your testzip, and I find the 80OBxa really useful.

Thanks...


P.S. Do you have more of such converted JV stuff?
The best of it seems to sound better than some comparable new programmed FantomX sounds.

I just have the CD that came with my Vintage Keys SRX board.

It has zip files for SRX 06,07,08 and 09

which SRX boards do you have?

I have only really used the data for B3 and Rhodes patches