Sequencer Lag on x6 Need Help!!

nothing else connected (via MIDI) to the Fantom?
-illiac

nope, just the fantom

maybe my ears are bad, i didn't notice anything major..

pretty cool beat, but didn't notice a lag...

if your talking bout the sound taking awhile to come in full expression, maybe mess with the attack?? thats the only thing I noticed, slow attack on some of the sounds...

also are all those sounds stock?? i really like how the breakdown snare sounds, good work regardless....

an example would be around :37 and 1:02....and I have the attacks set, its not just the instruments, its the entire song. i can even see the clock freezing up and then jumping to the count it's supposed to be at.

After listening 4 times, and its catchy... haha, i really don't notice the sound problem... I even zoned in on :37 and 1:02...

I'm perplexed...

If this is a problem it needs to be worked out.. I never really use long takes on the sequencer, so I don't know. I usually work with smaller takes, and send via usb (track out, smaller scale)...

Hmmmm, how many channels you using (all 16?, you checking the poly count, other then that I need see mess around with my fantom and see if I can replicate the problem some way...

Funny that Roland is no help...

What OS you using?

also you experience this with every project? Maybe something went wrong with the sequencing in this one....???

If the problem happens everytime, I don't know... It may be worth a return for a new unit...

i'm not sure what OS it is i just got it like 3 weeks ago at a going out of business sale at Brook Mays

I would maybe save your stuff, then update the os to the newest one... (tons of stuff about how to do that on the site... I think its on 2.10)

Unless you don't have the audio track update, then your in 1.0+ territory, which I don't know anything about (post 2.0 buyer myself)...

Save to a card and try a factory reset as well, was the unit totally new (with 2.0) in a sealed box or a floor model, used? There have been cases of people buying pre 2.0 units...

If all else fails, maybe someone else has an idea... Worst case scenerio involves shipping to Roland, but I don't see you needing to go that route just yet... Good luck..

no box, it was a display model. i guess i'll try saving the song file and doing the OS update or whatever. any other suggestions are welcome! i have to get this problem solved cuz its buggin the hell outta me. thanks for the tips 8pound

I get bugged by very small timing variations too, makes me crazy.

Updating the OS is a good idea. You might also check out each of your tracks in the micro edit view and look, around the time of the lag, for a big burst of events that will fill up the MIDI event buffers. Something like a pitch wheel or mod wheel or channel pressure can put out so many events that the MIDI buffers get filled up and backlogged. Especially if that happens on more than one track at the same time.

Otherwise, not too sure what to suggest...

-illiac

HELLO
I THINK MAYBE YOUR PROBLEM IS VOICE POLYPHONY RELATED.
REMEMBER THAT YOUR FANTOM USE THE DOUBLE NOTES DUE TO THE STEREO PATCHES.
YOU CAN ASSIGN AN EXACT POLIPHONY NUMBER OF VOICES IN ANY PART AND THIS WILL ENSURE YOU THAT YOUR SEQUENCE WILL SOUND WITHOUT ANY LAG.
IN THE PERFORMANCE MODE MIXER SCREEN PLEASE PRESS PART VIEW AND SELECT RANGE...HERE YOU WILL FIND THE VOICE RESERVE WHERE YOU CAN ASSIGN THE MIMIMUM VOICE FOR THAT PART.
THE PARAMETER IS AT THE FINAL RIGHT CALLED "VOICE".
PLEASE NOTE THAT YOU ONLY CAN ASSIGN A MAXIMUM OF 64 VOICES AND FORM THAT POINT THE GENERATOR DYNAMICALLY ASSIGN THE REST OF VOICES FOR A TOTAL OF 128.
YOU CAN CHECK THE TOTAL NUMBER OF VOICES USED IN YOUR SONG PRESSING SHIFT+F4.
YOU CAN CHECK THE NUMBER VERSION OF THE SYSTEM INSTALLED IN YOUR FANTOM PRESSING MENU AND THEN INFO WITH F2.
MOVE TO SYSTEM VERSION AND ON THE SCREEN YOU WILL SE THE VERSION NUMBER.
PLEASE LET ME KNOW THIS NUMBER.
WILL BE BETTER IF YOU HAVE THE 2.10 SYSTEM VERSION.
I HOPE THIS TIPS HELP TO BE MORE HAPPY WITH YOUR FANTOM-X!
ATTE.



CESAR GUZMAN

FANTOM X6, V-SYNTH, GW-7, JUNO 60 ANALOG SYNTH, VP-330 VOCODER, RS-202 STRING MACHINE, JX-1 PERFORMANCE SYNTH, XP-50 WORKSTATION, D-110 LINEAR SOUND MODULE, FR-7 VIRTUAL ACCORDION, TR-505 RYTHM COMPOSER, DR-660 DR. RYTHM, 2480CD DIGITAL STUDIO RECORDER, DS-50A DIGITAL MONITORS, RH-200 HEADPHONES, EDIROL PCR-30 MIDI CONTROLLER, RE-201 SPACE ECHO, KC-500 KEYBOARD AMPLIFIER, EDIROL ORCHESTRAL, HYPER CANVAS, QUARTET DXI SYNTH WITH CAKEWALK SONAR 4 PRODUCER EDITION.

enzo

I don't think this is a OS issue. Use the Microscope function and see if the notes start exactly at beat 0.00 in the measure. Maybe during copying you have moved the events slightly forward or backward causing the "lag"


Could not afford the 8.
Listen to what I've done with the 7

fix --- i have already checked notes in micro edit and have them properly placed.

Cesar --- i did the voice monitor like you suggested, on the parts where it lagged i saw it hit 116 and 120 on that chart (in yellow). Is that what could be causing the lag? I removed the organ (which i think used up the most poliphony) and it seemed to make most of it go away but i was still catching a tiny tiny bit on some parts.

I hope that the poliphony isn't the main problem because i feel like i don't even have that many things going. I'm thinking about getting an mpc1000 from a friend to sequence and do my drums on and run the fantom through it.

I couldn't figure out how to check what OS i have from your instructions cuz i couldn't find the "info" button.